Honestly, if I get the job done and do it to spec, managers can shut the fuck up.
I’ve always told my daughter to never show up on time because it sets a bad precedent. No one cars if the person whose always late is late. Everyone freaks if the person whose always on time is late.
My job doesn’t care if I’m late, and my productivity has not changed
Bruh
This is cultural appropriation of italian culture
As a german: Also the appropriation of french culture. I love my sisters.
Is this post serious or just making shit up? Ive never heard anyone claim that 10 minutes late is on time. Late and on time are mutually exclusive words. Whether your work punishes it or not is a different question, im permitted to be 5 minutes late and it counts as on time for example.
This seems more like a post designed to piss people off and make them fight over a position noone had before reading it.
Yes it is very weird. When I worked IT, there was a period where I was often 10m late in the morning, we had Flex hours so I didn’t think too much of it, my hours were 40+ every week anyhow.
It was noticed and I was politely asked to make sure I’m on location at 8 since others might have issues when starting their computers. My bad, I’ll do better. And that was that
You ever ran late to a college class because you had to stay longer than scheduled at your shitty retail job to cover your perpetually late coworker who was supposed to relieve you?
Sometimes running 10 minutes late is no big deal, but sometimes it is. It becomes a problem the moment it causes someone else problems.
And if this is the case for a business they should plan for it because people will be late. Pretty easy to overlap schedules and be prepared - but that costs money. So obviously we can’t do that because the shareholders are the only thing that matters.
The lack of overlap is its own problem but if you know there isn’t an overlap (from looking at the schedule) and you have even the most basic respect for your coworker then you will be at work at the time of shift change. Especially for shitty jobs people work in college you being 10 minutes late means you get paid less money so it’s not like the scummy employer is hurting the only person you hurt is your fellow proletariat coworker
Yes, the business is responsible for their poor decisions jus the same as the tardy employee is, one does not absolve the other.
Sounds like someone didn’t learn the 80/20 ratio
Got it. You should be 20 minutes late 80% of the time.
I prefer being 80 minutes late 20 days every month.
80 minutes late 20 days of the weekI forgot the work week is only like 20 days a month lol
10 mins late to an office job where they get their 10m back, AOK.
10 mins late to cashier/sales gig where you’re relieving someone else, not great.
10 mins late to a meeting is bad
10 mins late to class is bad.
10 minutes late when you work in a hospital setting could mean I will be staying another hour to finish up what should have been the late worker’s responsibility
Really depends what you are 10 minutes late for. A meeting with other participants, ok if your role is to sit and listen. Not OK if people are waiting for you to start. It’s not OK to be late to relieve a co worker either
That’s how you build anticipation
Depends on the job.
Depends on the coworker. I’m going to have to all Jeff’s side work anyway. He can wait until after my coffee.
Depends on the job. Retail? Jeff needs to leave when his shift is over. It’s nobody’s problem.
I just have unmedicated adhd and poor time management, i’m 10 minutes late for everything, i’ll be late to my own funeral, I’m a millenial or whatever
“OOOOOooOOOOoO but I’d be a great hunter if we lived in huts Linda. I would be so alert Linda. I could see the patterns and get hyper focused on leaves and colors but no We’re stuck being wage slaves forced to live by timings set by normies instead of appreciating my talents if we lived with nothing.” - People with ADHD
As someone with ADHD I laughed at this message.
Fuck those companies. They should be grateful I even sent my resume to their corrupted pile of shit of a company
I wasn’t going to do anything productive in that first 10 minutes anyway, so…
Is there anyone covering for you? If so does their time have no value.
Not every job needs someone to cover. My work is about deadlines. As long as I meet them, I can work whenever and wherever I want aside from meetings and work events.
If your lateness doesn’t impact anyone that’s unlikely to be a problem BUT given Gen Z’s age range it is unlikely they aren’t mostly in shift work.
One thing I noticed about the younger generations is that they give zero fucks about their colleagues.
weird, I’m increasingly noticing that about older generations as we hire more older people at work
That’s atypical as most of the older generations usually have less inclination to being self centered in the workplace.
Yeah Im seeing a lot of people display how little they care about other people here which is disturbing.
An example of which would be a manager who pressures an employee to keep working because the employee who is taking over their job isn’t there yet and then acts as if they aren’t the one making it the other employee’s problem and it’s entirely the fault of the late one.
The world won’t end if that cash register is idle for a few mins. Hell, a manager should know how to run that register if it really is such a such a huge deal to have slower throughput for a bit.
Sometimes we all have work that requires others to show up on time. Sometimes I could hop on a registers but other times I can’t.
REGARDLESS, all of the problems start with the inconsiderate person who chronically cones in late. Blaming the cause of the problem is typically appropriate. There’s no exception in this case.
I’m talking specifically about the “if you’re late it’s because you don’t care about the person you’re relieving” part.
It would be like telling your staff “sorry but we had to cut everyone’s pay a bit because one of you were caught taking money from the register”.
These people are already working for pennies on the dollar of the value the work they do makes the corp. Even with the lates and almost all of the other screwups.
If you are chronically late you don’t particularly cate about the impact that has on others. Sorry but being selfish is something people will judge you for as an adult.
Okay kids, this is what we call, micro management leading to a hostile work environment.
I don’t think I’ve worked for a company that gave a shit if I was 10 minutes late.
One company had a time clock that only kept time records to one decimal place of an hour. The clock literally couldn’t differentiate between someone clocking in 5 minutes early, or 5 minutes late.
Anyone who cares about how trivially late you are, isn’t someone worthy of your labor.
That entirely depends on the job. I worked retail management for a store that had a lot if single parents that had two jobs. I’d cut them slack if they were late getting from one job to another. Im a lot less inclined to tolerate lateness when someone doesn’t have other responsibilities. When their lateness forces others to stay late to cover them it is a problem.
I’m all for tolerance but why should the circumstances of the individual matter? A single non-parent might have just as good a reason for being late.
If they are chronically late then they aren’t going to have good reasons.
Retail isn’t important enough to be on time for.
Then don’t take those jobs. There’s no justification for being selfish.
There’s no justification for being selfish.
The principals of retail is capitalism whose driving force is selfishness.
That’s a massive stretch you are making to justify being selfish.
Why stay late? Just leave. You’re not getting OT.
Company’s shit is company’s shit. End of shift ut stops being your problem.
If you are salaried you can’t “just leave”. If you are hourly you can but you might want to be seen as the person willing to help out when needed because that dies get reciprocated presuming your managers are normal human beings.
At this place part timers were getting full benefits so most would be willing to help because only a fool would give up that job.
It depends on the job. Sometimes coverage matters, sometimes specific times really matter for outcomes.
I’m gen x and I believe this.
