Literally me for decades. My astigmatism wasn’t diagnosed until 2-3 years ago despite yearly (or semi-yearly) visits to the optometrist. Thought that was just how lights looked in the dark lol.
I’ve NEVER noticed this; but I did notice that my vision was getting worse over time, I finally went to an optometrist, and yeah, I needed a bit of correction, but I also found out I have an astigmatism. so that’s something.
Lights don’t look any different than they always have, no blooming or streaks or halos or star lines or anything; but I still have it, and it makes things blurry and it sucks.
I was at the optometrist explaining the streaky lights AS I WAS WALKING OUT WITH A PRESCRIPTION FOR MY ASTIGMATISM and the doc was like “you were probably squinting, causing that effect”. Bro
I was getting my pupils dilated for the optometrist to properly measure the extent of my astigmatism.
Had never had that procedure done before.
…As I am leaving, with eyes blurry as fuck from being dilated…
Receptionist tells me if I leave now, I might be able to dodge rush hour.
… I wish I could have actually seen the expression on her face when she said that, but I couldn’t.
Due to being temporarily legally blind.
From the procedure that she had just-
sigh
So yeah I made it about two blocks in my car, said NOPE, and just fucking sat in a parking lot for something like an hour, till I could fucking see again.
American health care just literally is a sadistic joke.
the fuck. here the doc tells you beforehand that you are not allowed to drive after the procedure and asks you to bring someone to drive you if possible
I was prepared for this when I went to see an optometrist. I went to a local one, just a couple blocks away from me on purpose because I knew I wouldn’t be able to drive home.
Even though I walked I also had someone with me who could help guide me home, because I was worried that the summer, midday sun would be too bright for me to bear, even with sunglasses, and I would not be able to see well enough to follow the path home. Everything turned out fine, but I’m glad I took the extra care anyways. It just wasn’t nearly as bad as I had planned for it to be.
I was unfortunately super busy with work, did not live within walking distance of any optometrist…
… and despite telling multiple friends and family who had had this procedure done before, none of them mentioned anything about it to me, oh and no medical staff anywhere in the entire process between telling me I should have this procedure done, to scheduling that procedure…
…none of them told me that the procedure makes you legally blind for ~1-2 hours either.
I am glad that you knew this was a procedure that required planning for.
Wow, that seems like a violation of their duty of care.
What makes me happy is that you knew that you couldn’t do it and pulled off until you could again. I swear some people drive when they really really shouldn’t, and just rely on everyone else to make up for their lack of eyesight.
Kudos where it’s due. Thank you for being a reasonable and responsible driver.
Motor vehicles are designed to keep you safe in case someone else has a bad day and hits you, they are not designed to keep any other people safe if you hit them. It is, IMO a lethal device.
Irresponsibly using that device, so you can benefit at the risk of others (as many seem to do), should be criminally negligent at best. It’s selfish and self centered. Anyone with a shred of compassion for their fellow humans should avoid using such a device if it is unsafe for them to do so.
But people often downplay the risks and have more confidence in their ability to do something that they really really shouldn’t do, with no justifiable reason to believe that they are capable of that.
I was very tired yesterday and instead of driving home on the little consciousness I had remaining, I deferred to my S.O. to take over and complete the journey home. I probably could have made it, and risk was mitigated because we were on country roads, but I’m not taking that chance.
The remainder of the trip I dozed in and out of being awake and my mind started mixing dream images with reality as I was drifting in and out.
To be fair, I stopped trying to stay awake after I left the driver’s seat (I got us about 1/3rd the way home before conceding), but if that micro sleep happened while I was still behind the wheel, I can’t say I would have made it home no matter how much I tried. I also can’t say that I couldn’t have.
If I had been alone in the car, I would have stopped and taken whatever sleep I could before finishing the trip. I’ve been driving long enough that I know my limits, and I hit it hard when I pulled off.
I was so tired that once I got home, I slept from around 5pm or so, to around 11pm, then went back to bed before 1am and woke up at 7. I slept for nearly 12 hours and I still feel tired. I pushed hard to complete my task because I know my SO doesn’t like driving very much, less so in unfamiliar areas, but I appreciate that they could, and did, take over when I just couldn’t do it safely anymore.
I’m not trying to one-up anyone, and you’re situation was very different from mine. But I told this story because it happened literally yesterday. Driving isn’t just “I’m good” and you go until you get there, it’s a constant evaluation of whether you are still capable of operating the vehicle safely; for you, your passengers (if any), for other road users, and for their passengers, loved ones and families, as well as any pedestrians or other people. If you cannot reasonably say, without bias, that you are capable of operating the vehicle safely, then don’t. It’s just that simple.
But, like I said, most tend to be biased that they can do anything, which makes it difficult to get people to do the right thing sometimes.
I am not even yet 40, and basically, 80% of the people I’ve ever known in my life have at least once, driven drunk or high or while on prescription drugs that make them considerably uh, dulled, or as with your scenario, overly exhausted and fatigued.
I don’t drive any more, barely at all.
America’s roads suck shit, and the drivers are fucking astoundingly unsafe.
But, because our mass transit generally sucks as well, we are stuck in a destructive feedback loop, we are running our cars and our minds and bodies untill they just totally give out.
Anyway, completely agree with your perspective on driving, you would think that would be common sense, but evidently not.
Lol I had the same procedure and sat in my car after calling someone to come pick me up, but they took too long and I decided to just drive myself anyways. I couldn’t read signs, but traffic lights and other cars were visible enough. I bet there are a lot of old people on the road driving around regularly with eyesight that bad or worse.
Oh yeah, I am of the strong opinion that everyone should need to fully redo their drivers test, written and practical, every 5 years, hit 60, every 3 years, hit 72, every single year.
There are way too many idiots who don’t know how to drive, and driving is such a … multi faceted skill that requires so many of your body processes to be working well… and basically all of those start to nose dive after a certain age.
Same. “If you get laser surgery you might get a starburst” but that’s what I see already, I don’t know what you mean. It took a while to get the rotation properly tuned in too.
(Since they tuned in the astigmatism and with the risk of side effects I decided no laser.)
Consider that once the laser you, your astigmatism is gone: even if you need corrective lenses, they’re much simpler than they could be.
As an example, my twin got his eyes done when he was rocking some serious coke-bottle lenses and working the fancy FAANG jobs and livin’ large. He’s had a coupla tune-ups, but never for the astigmatism. (and, even now, they’ve tuned one eye for close focus and the brain still copes, drastically reducing his need for presbyopia lenses)
I have 20/15 with glasses and astigmatism correction has eliminated the starbursting issue, so my (difficult) decision was that unnecessary surgery that could leave me with some combination of still needing glasses, poor night vision, starbursting, and especially dry eyes led me to decide to just settle for glasses.
I’m up to about $700 a pair these days (high fashion frames ain’t cheap, and they match my sweatpants) every two years or so, but it’s almost 100% insurance covered and they’d only cover 10% of my eventual laser bill.
Don’t think you get dry eyes and the sticky eye lid with LASIK. My buddy who got PRK (army boon lol) does complain about it though.
The only thing I got now is minor starburst, but I regret nothing. Ten years in and my vision got a bit worse, -87 diopter to -0.5 on both eyes after surgery to -1/1.5 now. But I’m above forty five so it’s normal. I could probably go for a corrective surgery.
However you know how trans people feel before transitioning? Body dismoprhia or dysphoria. While I was not in distress, looking into the mirror while I was still wearing glasses I was not seeing myself, but a stranger. Getting the surgery helped with that to an immediate effect, along with boosting my self confidence.
Long-time glasses-wearer. My face looks wrong without them, like someone missing their eyebrows. It is interesting how many little things around us are so different for us, like finding sunglasses that sit nicely, protective eyewear that isn’t kept too far away by my glasses’ corners, hats (less commonly a problem), any kind of helmet that approaches or covers the ears, headsets (I swear by earhooks). Not to mention the circumstances that fog them up, like sudden temperature changes (exiting a cooler building or car into a hot outside) or getting hit with a blast of steam from the kettle, oven, or whatever. Fog city, takes awhile to clear up during which I’m either blind because of fog or because of no glasses.
During the pandemic time where everyone had to wear masks, my glasses fog up like every second and I had no other option, either remove my glasses or remove the mask, I picked neither and continued to struggle. I hate fog with a passion lmao
I used to see images like this explaining what an astigmatism was and just thought “well your windshield can cause this too so that’s probably what I’m seeing”
I genuinely don’t know why this was the conclusion I came to. Got an Rx for glasses a few years ago now and like most of my family I have a mild astigmatism.
Literally me for decades. My astigmatism wasn’t diagnosed until 2-3 years ago despite yearly (or semi-yearly) visits to the optometrist. Thought that was just how lights looked in the dark lol.
I’ve NEVER noticed this; but I did notice that my vision was getting worse over time, I finally went to an optometrist, and yeah, I needed a bit of correction, but I also found out I have an astigmatism. so that’s something.
Lights don’t look any different than they always have, no blooming or streaks or halos or star lines or anything; but I still have it, and it makes things blurry and it sucks.
I was at the optometrist explaining the streaky lights AS I WAS WALKING OUT WITH A PRESCRIPTION FOR MY ASTIGMATISM and the doc was like “you were probably squinting, causing that effect”. Bro
I was getting my pupils dilated for the optometrist to properly measure the extent of my astigmatism.
Had never had that procedure done before.
…As I am leaving, with eyes blurry as fuck from being dilated…
Receptionist tells me if I leave now, I might be able to dodge rush hour.
… I wish I could have actually seen the expression on her face when she said that, but I couldn’t.
Due to being temporarily legally blind.
From the procedure that she had just-
sigh
So yeah I made it about two blocks in my car, said NOPE, and just fucking sat in a parking lot for something like an hour, till I could fucking see again.
American health care just literally is a sadistic joke.
the fuck. here the doc tells you beforehand that you are not allowed to drive after the procedure and asks you to bring someone to drive you if possible
I was prepared for this when I went to see an optometrist. I went to a local one, just a couple blocks away from me on purpose because I knew I wouldn’t be able to drive home.
Even though I walked I also had someone with me who could help guide me home, because I was worried that the summer, midday sun would be too bright for me to bear, even with sunglasses, and I would not be able to see well enough to follow the path home. Everything turned out fine, but I’m glad I took the extra care anyways. It just wasn’t nearly as bad as I had planned for it to be.
I was unfortunately super busy with work, did not live within walking distance of any optometrist…
… and despite telling multiple friends and family who had had this procedure done before, none of them mentioned anything about it to me, oh and no medical staff anywhere in the entire process between telling me I should have this procedure done, to scheduling that procedure…
…none of them told me that the procedure makes you legally blind for ~1-2 hours either.
I am glad that you knew this was a procedure that required planning for.
Wow, that seems like a violation of their duty of care.
What makes me happy is that you knew that you couldn’t do it and pulled off until you could again. I swear some people drive when they really really shouldn’t, and just rely on everyone else to make up for their lack of eyesight.
Kudos where it’s due. Thank you for being a reasonable and responsible driver.
Oh, I’ve straight up been the victim of medical malpractice/fraud/misrepresentation multiple times in my life.
Not like I can afford a lawyer though.
Being temporarily rendered legally blind with no forewarning, thats one of the more mild ones.
But uh yeah, unlike seemingly just most people, I have and will always treat driving as if I am operating a potentially lethal device.
Because… I … am, when driving a car.
I don’t think it’s possible to agree more.
Motor vehicles are designed to keep you safe in case someone else has a bad day and hits you, they are not designed to keep any other people safe if you hit them. It is, IMO a lethal device.
Irresponsibly using that device, so you can benefit at the risk of others (as many seem to do), should be criminally negligent at best. It’s selfish and self centered. Anyone with a shred of compassion for their fellow humans should avoid using such a device if it is unsafe for them to do so.
But people often downplay the risks and have more confidence in their ability to do something that they really really shouldn’t do, with no justifiable reason to believe that they are capable of that.
I was very tired yesterday and instead of driving home on the little consciousness I had remaining, I deferred to my S.O. to take over and complete the journey home. I probably could have made it, and risk was mitigated because we were on country roads, but I’m not taking that chance. The remainder of the trip I dozed in and out of being awake and my mind started mixing dream images with reality as I was drifting in and out.
To be fair, I stopped trying to stay awake after I left the driver’s seat (I got us about 1/3rd the way home before conceding), but if that micro sleep happened while I was still behind the wheel, I can’t say I would have made it home no matter how much I tried. I also can’t say that I couldn’t have.
If I had been alone in the car, I would have stopped and taken whatever sleep I could before finishing the trip. I’ve been driving long enough that I know my limits, and I hit it hard when I pulled off.
I was so tired that once I got home, I slept from around 5pm or so, to around 11pm, then went back to bed before 1am and woke up at 7. I slept for nearly 12 hours and I still feel tired. I pushed hard to complete my task because I know my SO doesn’t like driving very much, less so in unfamiliar areas, but I appreciate that they could, and did, take over when I just couldn’t do it safely anymore.
I’m not trying to one-up anyone, and you’re situation was very different from mine. But I told this story because it happened literally yesterday. Driving isn’t just “I’m good” and you go until you get there, it’s a constant evaluation of whether you are still capable of operating the vehicle safely; for you, your passengers (if any), for other road users, and for their passengers, loved ones and families, as well as any pedestrians or other people. If you cannot reasonably say, without bias, that you are capable of operating the vehicle safely, then don’t. It’s just that simple.
But, like I said, most tend to be biased that they can do anything, which makes it difficult to get people to do the right thing sometimes.
I am not even yet 40, and basically, 80% of the people I’ve ever known in my life have at least once, driven drunk or high or while on prescription drugs that make them considerably uh, dulled, or as with your scenario, overly exhausted and fatigued.
I don’t drive any more, barely at all.
America’s roads suck shit, and the drivers are fucking astoundingly unsafe.
But, because our mass transit generally sucks as well, we are stuck in a destructive feedback loop, we are running our cars and our minds and bodies untill they just totally give out.
Anyway, completely agree with your perspective on driving, you would think that would be common sense, but evidently not.
Receptionist isn’t an opthalmologist, and she probably had no idea that you’d just been rendered temporarily legally blind.
Lol I had the same procedure and sat in my car after calling someone to come pick me up, but they took too long and I decided to just drive myself anyways. I couldn’t read signs, but traffic lights and other cars were visible enough. I bet there are a lot of old people on the road driving around regularly with eyesight that bad or worse.
To your last point:
Oh yeah, I am of the strong opinion that everyone should need to fully redo their drivers test, written and practical, every 5 years, hit 60, every 3 years, hit 72, every single year.
There are way too many idiots who don’t know how to drive, and driving is such a … multi faceted skill that requires so many of your body processes to be working well… and basically all of those start to nose dive after a certain age.
You know, I don’t think you have a good eye doctor?
Same. “If you get laser surgery you might get a starburst” but that’s what I see already, I don’t know what you mean. It took a while to get the rotation properly tuned in too.
(Since they tuned in the astigmatism and with the risk of side effects I decided no laser.)
Consider that once the laser you, your astigmatism is gone: even if you need corrective lenses, they’re much simpler than they could be.
As an example, my twin got his eyes done when he was rocking some serious coke-bottle lenses and working the fancy FAANG jobs and livin’ large. He’s had a coupla tune-ups, but never for the astigmatism. (and, even now, they’ve tuned one eye for close focus and the brain still copes, drastically reducing his need for presbyopia lenses)
I have 20/15 with glasses and astigmatism correction has eliminated the starbursting issue, so my (difficult) decision was that unnecessary surgery that could leave me with some combination of still needing glasses, poor night vision, starbursting, and especially dry eyes led me to decide to just settle for glasses.
I’m up to about $700 a pair these days (high fashion frames ain’t cheap, and they match my sweatpants) every two years or so, but it’s almost 100% insurance covered and they’d only cover 10% of my eventual laser bill.
Don’t think you get dry eyes and the sticky eye lid with LASIK. My buddy who got PRK (army boon lol) does complain about it though.
The only thing I got now is minor starburst, but I regret nothing. Ten years in and my vision got a bit worse, -87 diopter to -0.5 on both eyes after surgery to -1/1.5 now. But I’m above forty five so it’s normal. I could probably go for a corrective surgery.
However you know how trans people feel before transitioning? Body dismoprhia or dysphoria. While I was not in distress, looking into the mirror while I was still wearing glasses I was not seeing myself, but a stranger. Getting the surgery helped with that to an immediate effect, along with boosting my self confidence.
really? I like my glasses and I think they bring some personality to my face
I look amazing in glasses, but not so good I’ll put up with not having peripheral vision
Long-time glasses-wearer. My face looks wrong without them, like someone missing their eyebrows. It is interesting how many little things around us are so different for us, like finding sunglasses that sit nicely, protective eyewear that isn’t kept too far away by my glasses’ corners, hats (less commonly a problem), any kind of helmet that approaches or covers the ears, headsets (I swear by earhooks). Not to mention the circumstances that fog them up, like sudden temperature changes (exiting a cooler building or car into a hot outside) or getting hit with a blast of steam from the kettle, oven, or whatever. Fog city, takes awhile to clear up during which I’m either blind because of fog or because of no glasses.
During the pandemic time where everyone had to wear masks, my glasses fog up like every second and I had no other option, either remove my glasses or remove the mask, I picked neither and continued to struggle. I hate fog with a passion lmao
I used to see images like this explaining what an astigmatism was and just thought “well your windshield can cause this too so that’s probably what I’m seeing”
I genuinely don’t know why this was the conclusion I came to. Got an Rx for glasses a few years ago now and like most of my family I have a mild astigmatism.