President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.
The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”
I’m just surprised that people think Carney, our prime minister, should antagonize Trump, who is currently master and chief of one of the largest, if not the largest military force in the world, over his stance on trans people. And to do it when he’s there for trade talks.
I’m just surprised that people think that Carney sitting there and refusing to engage in Trump’s bullshit, when the purpose of his visit is to negotiate trade on behalf of our entire country.
I’m not sure why anyone thinks Carney’s priority should be arguing with Trump over trans people, when we currently have a trade war going on, that can easily devolve into an actual war…
You’re 100% right and I agree with you wholeheartedly but there is a part of me that wishes out of moral principles someone public chastised him on this bullshit. He needs a dressing down on national television regardless of the consequences.
Oh, I agree, but unfortunately I think I know how that will go.
He’ll continue to spout his bullshit and shit talk whomever gave him the dressing down, whenever he is put in front of a camera for at least a few weeks afterwards, probably calling whatever country they’re from a shithole, his supporters will buy it up and nothing will change.
If that was done by Carney, it would just politically burn any credibility in trade negotiations, and put Canada under the gun for further punitive tariffs.
I really really want to see someone call him out too, but I also understand why Carney wouldn’t.
He has to be as focused on the topic at hand and stay away from any side tracked conversation, as much as he can; he’s representing so many Canadian interests and companies that he can’t take the risk. I wouldn’t want him to take on that risk.
I can shit talk America’s tariffs all day long, and call Taco any manner of names, but at the end of the day, the (almost entirely) free trade that Canada and the USA had before now was always beneficial for both countries, and getting back to that point would be beneficial for everyone.
We sell a lot of material to US companies, and so they make up a nontrivial amount of the GDP. We’re working really hard right now to change that, but it’s still the reality of the situation.
Personally, I’m rooting for international trade with allies that are not the USA. That’s what I want to see. As much as I feel bad for our American neighbors who don’t support drumph, it’s up to them to rally together and fix this crap. I support them in their efforts, but more diversified international trade is only going to benefit Canada.
I’m not sure why he’s wasting time on that orange turd. He should be getting the rebuild of our lost industries going and telling the americans to GTFO and eat dirt at this point. Stengthen ties with EU and Mexico now.
I’m aware that the feds have been working on more international trade with our allies in Asia/Europe/anywhere that isn’t the USA…
I was commenting the other day to my SO that most products don’t even need to be “made in Canada” for me to want to buy them, they just need to say “not a product of the USA” and I’ll consider it a viable option to buy.
Anything made in the USA, I try to avoid or find non-US made alternatives.
ill prefer made in canada, and be fine with ‘not american’
That’s pretty much me too.
The hardest thing for me is to get rid of Yankee shit is digital services eg Microsoft (use it for work) & google. My next phone will be a nothing or a fair phone.
I agree that Microsoft and Google are difficult to get rid of.
I haven’t yet decided what I’m going to do in this regard. Good luck friend.
There’s alternatives, protonmail, NorthMail, lots of non-google search engines, I need to find an alternative to google drive.
I’m very aware of the email alternatives.
My problem isn’t with email, it’s literally every other service that I log into using my Google/Microsoft accounts.
Drive is one of those…
I wish we could do that. The biggest problem with doing so is oil. There is no continuous pipeline from Alberta to eastern Canada that doesn’t move through the States. If the worst happened, the biggest Canadian economies, Ontario and Quebec, would be devastated.
Before that oil was moved through pipelines it was moved by train, I’m sure that could be arranged to bridge some of the demand. Not perfect by any means, but it would help until we could solve the pipeline problem. At this point we need to plan for a “when” scenario.
Yeah I want our allies to stand up as much as the next trans person but I don’t envy Carney.
Our mission right now is to survive, I won’t be sad if Carney doesn’t want to start WWIII over us.
You’re “surprised that people think that Carney sitting there and refusing to engage in Trump’s bullshit”?
Okay.
I’m surprised at the amount of people I’ve seen telling us regular average Joe Americans we need to fight back, exercise our 2A rights, do more than “just protest”, but then when their politicians have a chance to actually take a stand against American fascism but flop over like a wet noodle instead, they go “but but but, Amewica scawy :(”
The people criticizing Carney for not arguing with Trump have obviously never had the experience of arguing with a dementia ridden relative.
Nah trump is just gonna take your child away with ICE and disappear them into whatever island hes setting up for Maxwell when he pardons her and gets her back to running Epsteins business for him
Normally, when somebody becomes more idiot, he gets less attention. That’s how we do it in Europe. Waiting for the Americans to come alongside
This is how it should be done. I have no idea why people love propagating this shit so much. The guy has no morals and seeks attention. Both sides are feeding into it.
Treat him like the turd he is - flush him down and forget about him.
If only Carney was a good politican who had helped Canada in literally any way since taking office. At least he sorta looks good in comparison to a dementia riddled fascist, I guess. Fascists will see this as Canada bowing to the king.
I hate that he’s better than the alternative
I hate seeing us becoming more of a two party system
we need voting reform
We’re not - the NDP will be back. They are in talks to get $ from the liberals so they support the budget, NDP with Avi Lewis or the union guy will rise again.
We need viable candidates.
I’m not remotely a fan, but he has done some good things. Recognizing the state of Palestine might not be a game changer, but it’s a good start. The across the board military pay rise was absolutely needed and has done a lot to improve morale and retention in the CAF. The CRA will have automatic tax filing for low-income Canadians from next year onward. We finalised a trade and defence deal with Indonesia, the fifth (I think) most populous country in the world. Most recently, the government has put in a challenge to the supreme court to try to limit the powers of the notwithstanding clause, which if successful could really help to constrain the ways its being abused by people like Ford and Smith (they’re already bitching about this at the top of their lungs, which is all the proof you need that it’s a good thing). Still gonna vote NDP, but I always like to give credit when it’s due.
A lot of those are baby steps so small, it’s frustrating. But I get what you mean. At least it’s in the right direction.
This is exactly it. Carney was (willingly!) used here by Trump as a prop to normalise fascism.
wouldn’t it be the icing on the cake if the orange steaming pile of shit was trans? You know what they say about the most homophobic/transphobic people…
He does like his makeup, corsets and heel lifts.
He would have become an iconic drag queen if he made a couple different choices in the 1980s… so sad.
“They” say that because cishet people don’t like to admit culpability.
Hey, maybe this will cause him to recognize that the US is no longer safe for LGBTQ people. Which could then help open up a pathway for queer people, especially trans and non binary people, to escape before they start rounding us up.
Wishful thinking, I know, but this bitch needs to try and remain hopeful somehow.
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The way carney was staring intently at Trump with lovers eyes while he blathered on… very embarrassing
Reads like something Trump would tweet
VERY BAD!!!
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I’m not liking his performance to date, but this sounds like astroturfing.
Carney laughed when Trump “joked” about murdering fishing boat crews
How? I found it cringe. He doesn’t even have to interject but he could at least not do this act of listening intently to him while he speaks nonsense as if he were giving a high level lecture. It feels like performative kowtowing in hopes that Trump will reward him for it… which he will not.
Huh, I think you’ve fell victim of confirmation bias in this case.
Which is truly the ceinge position to be in.
It’s about not having the mindset of someone lives in the 51st State and instead lives in a sovereign, equal nation to the US. A lot of people in this thread seem to think that Mark Carney should bow down to Trump and nod along to everything he says, no matter how bigoted or indefensible, which is the implicit mindset of someone who sees their country as weaker, inferior one to the US.
It seems like you have some issues reading the situation.
Test
Trump is an expert on children’s sex.
Nah, children can’t consent, so that’s rape.
You think that would stop him?
Would? This guy is mentioned more times than many can count in the Epstein Files.
(that’s the joke)
Rape is sex. It’s sex without consent.
“We’re not going to take away your child and change the sex of your child… unless your child’s sex and gender don’t align with what we think they should be, in which case CPS will forcibly remove the child from that twisted family and enrol them in conversion therapy.”
It’s a tough spot having to endure the demented child rapist elected (twice) by our southern neighbours, probably best to just smile and nod and sucker punch that fucking moronic nazi when he’s not looking
When he’s not looking
Why? It’s not like he has the reflexes to dodge. Let him see it coming.
If Carney just punched him in the face I would vote for him again based on that alone.
It’s what he’d have to do to ever get my vote again.
You prefer Trump lite? (The conservative party of Canada)
Never said such a thing. I can dislike our Liberal PM without being a con idiot. This is not a what about moment but lots of my fellow countrymen choose to make it so. Very murica of you all. Guess we’ll get fascism too while you all judge.
You’re so angry.
… And I’m not sure I follow your point.
People are making it a what?
How did you take the leap from Carney not standing up to Trump about trans people to straight up fascism?
I’m more confused than anything.
Don’t let your tankies moralize Canada into the ground. You guys are in a position to NOT become like us. The US is currently fucked and your own Alberta MAGA is gaining head way. Do whatever is necessary to prevent Canadian conservatives from power. Even if your Liberals are garbage.
You know, if we stopped pretending there were only 2 parties in Canada we could actually get away from the lib/con bullshit and have a healthy multi party parliament.
Thanks Trudeau!
You won’t find an argument here
I hate that Canada has devolved into a two-party state.
I’m with you. The whole strategic voting thing… Even I’ve been victim of it and it was no more obvious than in the last election.
A lot of people voted liberal because they wanted to shut out the conservatives, and liberal votes had the best chance of doing that.
The problem is organization and agreement.
If we all agree to drop the strategic voting and just go with who we actually want, for a single election, I’m sure things would massively change. The trick is, getting everyone to agree on anything.
You can vote for the left-of-conservative candidate most likely to win in your district.
And in districts where the conservative candidate has no chance of winning, you can vote with your heart.
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I did not know that about him.
I feel like we need a clown emoji that looks like It.
