• bigfondue@lemmy.world
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      Technically yes they consider themselves Christian, but to all other sects they’re not. Jesus’ adventures in America are considered heresy.

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        All sects tend to consider other sects heresy.

        The Church of Christ (Joseph Smith) gave birth to Latter Day Saint denominations, the largest of which being the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

        They are Christians.

      • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world
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        Is there some sort of sect alliance between a bunch of sects that recognize each other as true christians?

        no?

        The Christian label is entirely self-ascribed and generally based in faith in Christ?

        Yes.

        They are Christians. Lmfao.

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          The lutheran and catholic church are pretty buddy-buddy here in Germany. They obviously don’t see eye to eye on many things, but they consider each other Christian enough to hold services together every year.

          Don’t think they’d invite the mormons even if those had significant numbers here. Might be wrong, though.

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      Nah, unless you want to call muslims christians as well. Once you start modifying your deity, like christians did to the jewish god, or muslims did about jesus being only a prophet, you’re a new religion. I’d say the same for when you change the basics of how you are saved (so I’d say that catholics and protestants are wildly different, seeing as catholics need confession and last rites to be forgiven or go to purgatory). Mormons hold that jesus and satan are brothers, that you need to go proselytize for a certain period of time, that there are planets instead of heaven (I guess heavenly bodies if we want to play with wording, whatever), etc.

      Contrast that with the difference between methodists and baptists, or presbyterians and lutherans, where basically it’s all window dressing. You might get some proscriptions, like no dancing or drinking for baptists, but fundamentally the beliefs don’t change.

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        Muslims don’t believe Jesus was the son of god. Therefore, they’re not Christians. Mormons do, therefore they are Christians. That they add more stuff in later doesn’t change that fact.

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        Mormons see Jesus as the Messiah, their lord and savior. They have an additional prophet, but they are Christian because Christ is their savior.

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          Yeah, I was raised Catholic, which is basically polytheism, imo (I was taught to pray to St. Christopher for lost things and to St. Jude for cancer patients, asking them to talk to Yahweh for me, but I was also taught to pray directly to Mary, which nudges it over the line for me- that’s not even addressing the trinity issue), and that’s definitely Christian. I’ve heard some Baptists say it isn’t, but they’re just wrong and spreading antipapist propaganda, even if unintentionally.

          I was also taught that there are three extant sects of Christianity: Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, and Protestantism (edit: not sure where Coptic Christians fell, but I suspect Orthodox). Jehovah’s Witness and Mormons are technically a type of Protestant (at least according to the Catholic Church), though I get how they could feel separate (and separate from each other). Quakers, Shakers, and Unitarians are also Protestants and also feel like their own thing, but in a very different way.

          Lutheran, Episcopalian, and Catholic church services/masses all feel basically the same to me, except for transubstantiation of the Eucharist, which Protestants by and large don’t believe in.

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        Wait, so which one are you saying isn’t Christian? Are you saying Protestants or Catholics are non-Christian? Either way, you’re wrong. Just curious where your misconception is.