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A crude drawing of a girl wearing a ski mask and holding a cartoonish bomb.
Labeled: illegalist gf
Text blocks surround her which read:
“laws aren’t real, silly.”
“a relationship is too formal of an organization; how about an affinity couple.”
only watches pirated movies.
“let’s have a slumber party; we can paint our nails and make bombs.”
she embrace you like she embrace criminality.
“can I borrow your pressure cooker?”
loves you almost as much as she hates cops
"I- I stole you that book you wanted, anon…
she cute, but also… she loot.
“galleani did nothing wrong”

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
        23·
        15 days ago

        Isn’t as popular as you think, is not an anarchist, and the political implications of his (alleged) actions are not clear to me.

        • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          9·
          15 days ago

          His (professed) politics are a shit show, but he did allegedly do propaganda of the deed.

          And it worked, at least a little. I can’t find anyone on rhe trains and busses of los angeles whos hostile to him.

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
            12·
            15 days ago

            I think the events around him are interesting but I think if propaganda of the deed is to be effective the target needs to be basically universally reviled. While younger and left leaning people have largely supported Luigi, most older people don’t, and that’s part of why I think, despite being one of the more successful examples, it still didn’t achieve much of anything.

            Also, I actually think that Luigi having incoherent political views was good in this case since there was no concrete movement the ruling class could blame and justify repression against. If he had been an anarchist instead I think things could have gone a lot worse. Especially if Trump or someone more autocratic had been in power.

            • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              5·
              15 days ago

              most older people don’t

              Again, i have not found a single person while having conversations on tje public trsnsit and streets of los angeles whos hostile.At most they’re in the ‘well he did a bad thing, but i get it’ camp.

              universally reviled

              yeah that helps. Also the plan popping off helps. Americans have no sympathy for failure.

              not associated with a movement

              Im not so sure that couldn’t work. Know more than one who turned left because of that act. The considerations are complex, but, like, there’s probably a way. I’ll leave it to the pro violence doers.

                • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  4·
                  15 days ago

                  ‘Acceptable’ and ‘unacceptable’ also much narrower criteria. A lot of the people i talk to saying ‘i dobt like murder but i understand it/dont hold it against him’ might say ‘unacceptable.’

                  And not everyone everywhere is going to be sympathetic. Thats fine. If the people of bootlick arkansas want to die in chains, that is their perogative.

                  I’m not generally for or against, just pointing out that it works sometimes and does spark dialogue. Even if its more complicated than ‘do crime be popular’.

                • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  3·
                  15 days ago

                  Oh, also, should be noted: people lie about their values and preferences. Especially around violence.

                  Not like maliciously, just bevause that’s what you say. Especially in a public context-like a poll.

                  And plenty don’t actually know what they believe/believe in nothing re: abstract principles.

                  Nobody likes war for war’s sake, but plenty of people have never seen a war they didnt like.

                  So im not sure a lot of people really can answer the question polled with any honesty.

        • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
          6·
          15 days ago

          Lol. Being genuine though, I don’t think of illegalism as a strategy, but more so a lifestyle that’s most congruent with my values, so I’d argue that it can’t really ‘fail’ in that sense.

          I do think there’s some worthwhile theory behind it, and legitimate benefits outside of individual empowerment, but those aren’t what drive me

          Edit: it just occurred to me you’re probably responding specifically to the Galleani part. Idk much about him tbh

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
            1·
            15 days ago

            Yeah I’m not objecting to the meme as a whole, laws aren’t my jam at all but blowing people up really didn’t get the movement anywhere.