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    I mean, I’m souring on the Democrats because they haven’t fucking done anything to divert us from this disaster.

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      When they get the ball, they won’t play offense. When they lose the ball, they won’t play defense.

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      Dems are perfectly happy with feeling smug in their political moral superiority and their insider trading. Why take power, and have to work hard? Chuck Schumer would rather compose stern letters to people who can’t read.

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      The Dems are fairly low on my list of the blame game. But they’re still on the list!

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        They could do the bare minimum.

        1. Stop approving his cabinet members.
        2. Stop any finance bill.
        3. Stop any sales to Israel.
        4. Push candidates with a plan to stop kid rapist.
        5. Sure up their base with a plan.
        6. Say what you will do with the new broken rules.
        7. Abolish ICE
        8. Tax the wealthy
        9. Ban stock trading
        10. Ban Citizens United decision
        11. Expand the court or destroy its ass
        12. Rewrite the constitution

        Fuck, pick at least 1 and I don’t get paid $200k with life time benefits and insider knowledge.

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          Stop any sales to Israel.

          Ha. They’ll never do that. It’s the only policy they didn’t abandon when they got pushback.

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            Bare minimum is all people want to see. That is why I want democratic socialism but most people are scared off by socialism.

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              What is called “democratic socialism” these days mostly just amounts to a market economy with a reasonable level of social security and public infrastructure.

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              Bare minimum is all people want to see.

              Democrats would rather have permanent dictatorship run by a pedo than deliver the bare minimum.

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          I would like to see Democrats publicly proposing that we will hold ICE agents accountable, with a plan that would actually work - we rendition them to the home nations of their victims.

          SCOTUS is so corrupt that the US justice system needs to be bypassed entirely when bringing ICE agents to justice. But if you’re an ICE agent that is operating a concentration camp where Venezuelan citizens are killed? Your ass should be sent off to Venezuela for trial. SCOTUS will doubtlessly protect the Nazi thugs, but Venezuela will hold them accountable. Let them rot in some hellhole prison down there.

          I want politicians to be talking about this now, to make clear that crimes against humanity will not be forgiven or forgotten.

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        The house is burning down. I’m obviously blaming the arsonists, but I’m also lying blame at the firefighters who decided to not do their duty.

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          “Hey listen, the wild bear is the one mauling everyone in the school. Blame the bear! Yes, we placed honey in the open door and smeared the children’s faces with fresh salmon, but it’s the bear that is eating the children. Please donate to help me scold the bear.”

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        If Joe Biden had put Donald Trump behind bars on his first day of office for the January 6 attack we wouldn’t be here right now. Everything good he ever did is irrelevant because he failed to stop the coup

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          Everything good he ever did is irrelevant because he failed to stop the coup

          I wouldn’t even blame him if he had honestly failed, but he didn’t even try

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            Why would he try?

            The Democrats banked on the idea that Trump is the easiest candidate to win against, despite Clinton loosing to him in 2016. And it was clear with Biden. He wasn’t voted because people liked him. He was voted because people were dissatisfied with Trumps first term. And Biden managed to fuck up so badly, that people rather chose Trump for a second round than to deal with Biden or Harris, who stated explicitly that she will do everything like Biden.

            The Democrats thought that Trump is perfect as he lets them get away with being the worst version of themselves and they’d rather see another Trump presidency than actually provide good policies for the people.

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        They’re very high on mine. They created the conditions that allowed Trump to take power. They’ve fought tooth and nail to keep everyone who might have been able to prevent this disaster away from the levers of power. The Democrats are the rachet preventing the rest of the country from stopping (or gasp reversing) the Republican-led march to fascism.

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        What did they do to get people to vote for them? Because they spent the last 4 years doing the “Everything is fine” meme while everyone’s quality of life rapidly started to deteriorate. Even candidates in Democratic strongholds saw their numbers nose dive last year because they have nothing to offer people other than “we aren’t Trump”.

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          Because they spent the last 4 years doing the “Everything is fine” meme while everyone’s quality of life rapidly started to deteriorate.

          If only it were just that. They made it perfectly clear that they lied about all of the individual benefits in build back better and never had any intention at all of passing them. They made it clear that they won’t increase the minimum wage and that it will remain stuck at 7.25 forever. They didn’t revisit the public option. They didn’t protect Roe. They didn’t protect democracy with the John Lewis Voting Rights Act. They didn’t reschedule cannabis. The only person who could count on democrats to do what they said they would was netanyahu.

          Democrats have a massive credibility problem and they earned it.

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            Meanwhile trump had project 2025 and is implementing it, much better than doing nothing!

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              There it is! The assumption that anyone who is upset in the slightest with democrats for any reason whatsoever must be a trumper!

              You lost to trump because you did nothing, but you don’t want the party to ever improve, so you’ll keep blaming anyone who doesn’t love how the only thing the party can ever seem to accomplish is selling weapons for genocide.

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                I didn’t lose to anyone, I’m an ocean away from that steaming pile of shit, but fun assuming.

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          Not only that but they completely threw away any semblance of morality with the Gaza genocide and they allowed Trump to get away with the January 6th attack enabling his return

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            Exactly. But we still have weasels even on here defending their genocide-loving asses. The Democratic party needs to be purged or burned to the ground. We’re in a two party system. And the Democratic party is currently the biggest barrier to progress in the country. It is fundamentally beyond reformation. Only by burning it to ashes will leave space for an actual left wing party to rise.

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              Exactly. But we still have weasels even on here defending their genocide-loving asses.

              Don’t look now, but you summoned one.

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              Yes, if democrats were in power, people would be starving in Gaza right now. Wait…

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                  I doubt it, the goalpost would have been moved. Kamala was clearly less bad and still lost.

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                  Never had, fuck Israel and fuck netanyahu. But Biden at least pretended to help. Even if it didn’t help that much, building a pier for humanitarian help is better than building a gaudy hotel and golf resort.

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          “we aren’t trump” is the best argument. I wish the American people the day they voted for.

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            Clearly it’s not since it didn’t wven work against George W Bush 20 years ago. It worked against Trump in 2020 because the morges were literally over flowing with COVID deaths.The Democrats keep slodding firther and further right but become less and less popular each time, while people like you atrack their critics rather than the people who keep doing the exact same political games that keep losing elections.

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              The critics contributed to electing trump, so I do criticize them. At the time of the election, it’s time to get behind the candidate.

              Bitch all you want during the primaries, but when your candidate loses and trump is the alternative it’s time to hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.

              It’d say I hope Americans learn and next time elect Bernie or AOC, but they have shown time and again that they will elect a corporate dem and the shitshow will continue. I’ll be over here enjoying universal Healthcare and smugness. You guys do whatever it is you’re doing.

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            Which is why the Dems propped up Trump, so the only argument they would need to qualify for was “we aren’t Trump”. And people got tired of that “good cop, bad cop” game, where both parties are ultimately against the people.

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            “we aren’t trump” is the best argument.

            Only because democrats didn’t have accomplishments to run on.

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              They had plenty, but the best was “we aren’t going to run the country into the ground on a speed run”, aka “we are not trump”.

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    The Dems are like the Keystone Cops bungling around while a wannabe dictator continues to take America apart.

    Even if the Dems had decent candidates, their strategy and tactics are ineffective.

    It’s like we get the worst of anyone who wants to be a politician, either side of the aisle.

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      Almost like it was all rigged, something trump admitted out loud, more than once.

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      Simple reason is…it takes a ton of fucking money to run a campaign. Even small county judge races cost at least 50-80k. How many good, down to earth people can drop their job, spend 80k on campaign shit and get out alive?

      Even with party money, you’ll still be struggling. Plus, who wants to be holden to the same old bullshit system?

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        Democrats were recently caught having a fund raising scheme so corrupt that it should be a capital offense to run such a thing. Those spammy text messages we were getting asking for donations? Turns out 98% of the money donated to those went straight into the pockets of consultants. The party’s primary reason for existence is not to advance policy goals, but to steal money from liberal donors.

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        I mean, Mamdani and Bernie proved that this is a very solvable problem. Small dollar donations are more than enough to get a candidate with popular policies into victory.

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        Very good points. It’s why money needs to be taken out of politics. Many other countries have figured that out.

        Citizens United really was the nail in the coffin for American politics.

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          100% agree. If we do have a landslide in 2026 without MAGA’s cancer. Maybe we can end Citizens United!

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              Exactly. Because they’re not prepared to do what’s actually necessary - reform the filibuster to allow it to be removed. Democrats have all these high-minded plans, but they all require a margin in the Senate they will never reasonably achieve. And even if by some miracle they did get 60 seats in the Senate, there will always be a rotating villain to throw a wrench in the works. Mamdani won not just because he had plans, but because he had very specific plans. He could tell people exactly how he intended to pass those plans. Democrats don’t actually have a plan for repealing Citizens United. They just have vague notions about repealing Citizens United.

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        It was only very recently that the US legalized paying a wage from campaign contributions, too.

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      Anyone with enough brains to be an effective leader has fucked off into retirement. Nobody wants to renovate the Titanic when it’s already halfway underwater.

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      Elections in the US won’t ever be free or fair ever again now that the child fucker is back in charge, the GOP have spent decades taking control of the courts & gerrymandering their way to absolute control.

      The only way that democracy and workers rights can be restored at this point is if everyone starts picking up their guns and starts systematically executing billionaires & their puppets. There are more of you than them, it’s time you started acting like it.

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        Also let’s be honest Trump could just send Ice to go arrest every Hispanic voter in line during early voting and he would scare enough people away from voting to win in a landslide. There’s absolutely nothing I would stop him from doing that. What did the Democrats going to do? A sternly worded letter?

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    I knew the American public was fucking stupid but I didn’t think they would continue declining this quickly.

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      You public is equally stupid, i guarantee it. Neoliberal parties are cratering across the globe because they are advocating for the system that is grinding everyone down. Labour, the SDP, and Rennasisance, are all getting clobbered in the polls because they keep advocating for the same failed system that led us to the mess we are in now. Hell, Italians keep voting for Mussolini’s literal centerold granddaughter. Or the Dirch voting for PVV, or Hungary and Orban, or PiS in Poland. And since Western powers have spent the last 80 years crushing any actual leftist policies, people everywhere are supporting rightwing parties because they are the loudest voices offering a change. what is happening on America is happening all across Europe right now. Or are American voters responsible for how people in Europe vote as well?

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        Throwing a wrench in the system is basically the only option anyone has so are we surprised the critical mass of pissed off people vaguely racist opinions are doing so?

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          Oh, so it’s only America that is stupid. Europeans are incredibly rational when their far right fascists poll better than centrist liberals.

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          People like you are bigots. The only group of people it’s okay to hate. Because you choose to be how you are.

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            Oh okay, you’re literally sitting there saying that leftist political parties don’t represent anyone and that violent uprising is the only option but I’m the bigot, that tracks have a nice life.

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              you’re literally sitting there saying that leftist political parties don’t represent anyone

              Are you claiming that democrats are a leftist anything?

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              Americans are stupid and that’s totally not bigoted to say

              -a bigoted asswipe

              And I said nothing of the kind about anything leftist. Just that you’re a bigot.

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      You saw/read handmaids tale? It’s that. That’s the goal. And I’m not making a joke.