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    The reason behind the buffalo’s attack on the trackers remains unclear>

    Well, just a wild guess, but “These creatures are shooting at me and want to kill me” sounds like a pretty good reason.

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    In other news:

    The reasons behind a tracker’s attack on a wild animal remain unclear. Reports indicate they were so fucking mental that they didn’t see a problem with killing an innocent being for no reason.

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    Loading Screen Tip #412

    Remember to prepare before facing Legendary Encounters. They are significantly harder than ordinary creatures.

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    While trophy hunting is fucked up, I’d like to remind people that hunting as done by regular people and not this millionaire bozo is a critical aspect of conservation.

    Hunting keeps deer and elk from overpopulating and stressing the habitats of other wild life. It is the only thing that keeps prion diseases in these populations in check. Hunters are a necessity because humans have displaced and culled apex predators who played the same role.

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        Disclaimer: I have no horse in this race, I don’t hunt or care to start hunting and if recreational hunting is more detrimental to sustained ecosystems than other tactics then it should be replaced, I’m more concerned with using good, reliable information to form conclusions

        The first and third link doesn’t appear to link to any citations or data to support it’s claims, so I think it’s fair to treat it as an option piece but I think we should have better standards when making decisions that can affect our stewardship of the world around us

        The second is quite long but from what I can gather it is the best of the 4 in that it is based on a survey of peer reviewed research and makes a good thorough case against a subset of recreational hunting, specifically trophy hunting, as unethical.

        The last link says overabundance is not a scientific term used in the scientific literature, but I can clearly see it is in many widely cited research papers (two usages, one in linguistics and one in biology)

        https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=overabundant

        And in the additional resources section there’s a few broken links and the closest I can find to a peer review article is a letter to the editor of a journal, not identified as a peer reviewed article and without public access to the methodology if it contains one

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304380005003339

        https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_Letter_to_the_Editor_considered_as_research_article_publication_Does_it_carry_any_value_in_terms_of_research_score

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        I live in a country (not US) that has been isolated from many countries for millions of years and had many invasive species introduced by humans in the past few hundred.

        These invasive species have devastated local/native wildlife and grown to ridiculous levels. If humans did nothing to stop them, including hunting them, they would completely take over and extinct many more species than they already have, reducing diversity.

        Not stopping them, again which includes hunting and trapping, would be amoral and worse for the planet

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        You didn’t even read paper that you linked.

        The only credible source that is well cited is the paper about the Consequences of recreational hunting for biodiversity conservation and livelihoods, and it explicitly states that recreational hunting (aka trophy hunting) is NOT subsistence or commercial hunting.

        This paper’s focus is on evaluating the dubious claims about conservation that recreational hunters uses to justify themselves. It is criticizing the same that I was criticizing, which is that there is no justifiable excuse for trophy hunting.

        You linked a bunch of random vegan sites, so I assume you’re vegan. Look, I get it. Eating and killing animals is fucked up. But you’re barking up the wrong tree here. Subsistence hunters, which most deer hunters are, are causing far less animal suffering than the vast majority of people who eat factory farmed animals.

        I’m not going to pretend I’m vegan because I’m not, but I have cut down meat consumption by 75%. If you want to make a real difference, you’ll find that telling everyone to eat 10% less meat is far easier than telling 10% of the world to become vegan. If you actually give a shit about animals, do what works, not what feels good to yourself. Remember that humans grow up in an environment that culturally enforced and prizes meat consumption. Remember that not everywhere and everyone has good access to vegan alternatives.

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      As someone who tries to limit their own meat intake, I’d be all for an increased social trend of eating venison or kangaroo, especially if regional hunters can get them into supply chains going elsewhere. It’s not a practice that could go on for decades, but we could fulfill a need to limit populations, give people a chance for sport outdoors, while also providing a source of meat that’s not horrifically industrialized.

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    Oh No! A millionaire trophy hunter was brutally mauled to death by a vicious beast? This is a terrible tragedy :( Seriously, what could be more important than the life of a complete and utter scumbag?

    I wonder how many innocent children starved and were murdered by the IDF today?

    Doesn’t matter- didn’t you hear? A rich white man was killed!

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      This is why it naked the news att all… it’s engagement. Just leave ragebait alone

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        This is why it naked the news att all

        If it had naked the news I probably wouldn’t mind so much. ;)

        The sad fact is, this isn’t really ragebait. The media has always treated the ruling class as more important than us plebians. For much of history- the public kind of agreed with them about that and no one raged about it. It’s only fairly recently that it’s become slightly more mainstream for people to be class conscious (in the last 100 years at least). I’m sure IrishstarDOTcom just thought this was a newsworthy death.

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          Haha that’s an acceptable typo :) Maybe it works online because it can simultaneously be ragebait and idol bait. But you are correct, the obsession especially for women for some reason with the aristocrat celebs is baffling

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          Now I’m wondering if NakedNews is still a thing… Haven’t thought of that in many years.

          Edit: apparently so. At least the website still exists.

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    Whenever I read about these hunters getting killed there is always this element in the reporting that it was a tragedy. It wasn’t. It was a glorious victory. Two entered a death match (one unwilling) and one survived. The buffalo defied odds heavily stacked against it and won. The buffalo didn’t ask to be the target of a wanker with a gun who likes killing things for fun. The wanker should also acknowledge that they’re are risks in playing death games. Sorry dude you lost. Buffalo won. Buffalo should get to live like a king as its prize.

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          Another one here. I’ve never gone out in the field unless I plan on cooking what I bring back. If I fight nature and nature wins…so it is.

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              I vote for nature to take care of city dwellers who buy their food instead of gather and grow it themselves like we do. Those who pave over nature for a new strip mall or condos. They’re a huge strain on the earth with their plastic shit and need for new all the time. Not to mention the masses of viable farmland that are consumed for building.

              Yet we are the ones who are hated on and reviled. People are fucked.

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                Oh, you think all the millions of people in cities would be able to do what you think they should do? Millions of people just disperse through the wilds and hunt and forage and grow a little plot of food?

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      As long as they don’t go ill the animal later anyway. Big cats that kill peoples seem to get table down and killed in most stories I hear.

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        Good thing humans aren’t known to be vengeful… I hope that buffalo is like 2 countries over by now with a new identity drinking a mai tai.

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        Often the individual animals preying on humans have some sort of health problem or something along the lines, making them desperate and thus continuously dangerous - so it is easy to pretend we don’t do it for vengeance too. There’s also the weird still lingering belief that once an animal has tasted human blood they’ll want more. Humans like to believe we’re not controlled by instinct and make up explanations for why not, but our actions have more truth than our words

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      I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Klingon voices suddenly cried out in agreement and were suddenly honored. I fear know something glorious has happened

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          You’re just salty that Dumbledore got to help rid the world of that evil ring while others flew around in their Iron Man suits!

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            I never saw Harry Potter but I know that’s where Dumbledore is from, so I will assume this is an accurate plot synopsis.

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      Guns are for punks. Fight with your hands or GTFO.

      (I’d PPV that all day. It’s like watching parkour YouTubes, just screaming and damage everywhere.)

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        Human hands are shit compared to what everything else has, at least allow them to use our oldest and arguably best tool. Spear hunting alone still carries a shit tonne of risk unless you are going after fish and even then watch your foot. Id watch one of this dipshits fumble with a spear for 4 minutes before getting ripped apart, it’d be like mixing slapstick with gladiatorial games.

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            While I’m sure you could find some rural folks who would do that happily, after all one of my kinsmen likes to hunt bore with knives before he sells it in his shop. We need to give these profligates fucks the illusion they have a chance, I want them to have hope before they get gored.

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    The reason behind the buffalo’s attack on the trackers remains unclear.

    “Why are you attacking me I’m just trying to hunt you”

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      Man minding his own bussiness stalking an animal to kill it, inexplicably attacked by animal he was plotting to kill.

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    Asher was fatally injured in a sudden and unprovoked attack by an unwounded buffalo

    Yeah, I’m sure it was unprovoked by the car full of people following it for hours.

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    His ex-partner and teenage daughter have been notified of his death.

    I parsed that sentence wrong and the next paragraph didn’t help me correct it.

    A close friend of the father revealed: "He spent every spare moment he could with Savannah and shared his life with her. Nobody could love a daughter more than he did…

    I was in full WTF mode for a second there.

    Also can someone explain to me what a luxury ranch is? Cause I just imagine it’s a fucked up modern day plantation with extra steps.

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      A luxury ranch is usually a place where you pay a lot of money to go hunt, and stay in very nice hotel like accommodations. Often they are high fenced properties where they are breeding deer to have extremely large abnormal antlers also known as “non-typicals” a hunter might pay $10-100k to pick one from a catalog and be plopped into a blind with a guide to shoot said deer.