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Yes more weapons instead of tougher laws on existing weapons.
You may ask yourself, "What is that beautiful drone?" You may ask yourself, "Where does that attack drone go to?" And you may ask yourself, "Is this right, is this wrong?" And you may say to yourself, "My God, what have we done?!"🎶letting the days go by … something something let me drown… 🎶
So uh… what stops someone just disabling all the drones first in a plausably deniable way? Because you know kids are gonna use those things as target practice already.
How long until the Manhacks are flying around?
I can hear this image.
Fantastic sound design!
Ah, yes, absolutely nothing could go wrong here.
I just hope your constitution protects drone rights.
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a drone swarm is a good guy with a drone swarm.
Murrka yippekayeee mothafucka or something like that (never been on that continent).
And drones should have the right to bear arms.
I dunno, the right to bear one arm releasing a grenade is honestly enough
Dunno about you but i’ve seen robocop
Some people take dystopian sci-fi as a guide and not as a warning.
A bunch of little flying ED-209s, what could go wrong?
Anything but trying to solve the underlying problems. Bonus: someone makes bank.
There’s literally no number of children that can die before reasonable action is taken.
It’s not the number that matters, it’s whose kids it is getting killed. If someone were to shoot up a school filled with politicians’ kids you’ll see some change rapidly.
When a dude’s gettin’ bullied and shoots up his school
And they blame it on Marilyn and the heroin
Where were the parents at?
And look where it’s at
Middle America, now it’s a tragedy
Now it’s so sad to see
An upper-class city havin’ this happenin’…
but its less likely to happen since private schools tend to be in wealthy areas, and is probably gated up. and PRIVATE school admins/rich parents are very quick to get rid of “problem students” aka “quiet dismissal but not outright expulsion”, a public schools wont do that, unless it becomes serious. i was in a sub about youtube channels owner(used to follow who sent thier kid to a private school, he was forced to leave because he was displaying aggressive behaviour from seizure meds, and the school was pressuring/ostracizing the students to leave the school, last i heard the kid sits at home and does nothing.)
🤔 maybe
Ya, I’m pretty skeptical too. Maybe we should try and see for sure.
They sometimes are in normal schools, just under pseudonyms or not aiming for too much attention.
Doesn’t really change the fact that it’s more about whose child it is getting killed. They don’t care til it happens to them, the fucking GOP in a nutshell… Even then, significant change for the better is a crapshoot at best.
I suppose it is better than thoughts and prayers… but avoiding addressing the root cause is all politicians do.
Pray for your drone overlords to suicide bomb the mentally disturbed with too many guns before it’s too late!
Just waiting for the reports of privacy violations, and noise issues, let’s just hope that’s as bad as this gets.
I actually saw a news segment on the demo, and they said they would be thrilled if they were able to put these in every classroom and never have to use it. Im sure you would, buddy…
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I grew up in a racist environment and parroted what was around me most of my young life. It’s all I knew, I didn’t change until I experienced the world and broadened my world view. Many of these “bigots” are ignorant and exploited. They are not evil people that should be eliminated. Your way of intolerance is the same type of ignorance you claim to hate. Dehumanizing any person or group as below you and therefore justify violence against is the worse part of society and the thing that needs to be cured. Racism is just one facet of that beast.
First - you are right.
Second - questioning dogma is always virtuous, even if the dogma is “people of race A are not worse or better than people of race B”, the fact of questioning itself doesn’t cause anything bad, while banning that from being questioned also bans the similar or associated statements, and similarity\associations are subjective.
Third - the reason our world is in such shit is that it became commonly shunned to question authority and normalized to fear authority. Because common set of moral principles is authority too. Where in 1960s (segregation and much more liberal gun laws in places like USA, no voting rights for women in places like Switzerland, former Nazis everywhere feeling nice and joking about it in public in places like Germany, literal colonial wars, normalized racism and so on) it was normal, at least in books and movies, to question any person, in suit or not, demanding anything from you, and asking for some legal substantiation. Even in the bloody USSR. In our days in TV and books and imagined universes and in reality asking “why should I do that” is treated as a mutiny.
We live in a world where it’s forbidden to ask “by which right”.
At least in societies pretending to be civilized this was considered a thing of the past after WWII. Not that it didn’t exist. Now it’s normal, people look at you with hostility for saying the obvious about preemptive obedience and such.
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I’m sorry you’ve been afflicted with the disease of stupid
What do racist have to do with school shootings?
That is the dumbest question ever asked
Really. This is the dumbest question ever.
Then surely you can answer it
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That’s what I thought.
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Clearly, you’re not from this planet…we’re going through a shitty period right now
looks at crime stats / looks at quantity and scale of wars / looks at quality of sanitation
Naw, we have it pretty damn good compared compared to basically all of history.
Certainly doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive to continue to improve.
✅ Don’t fix the underlying program
✅ Give $557,000 to a miltech company
We did it Patrick! We saved the city!Criminals have invaded the schools in lego city!
Build the attack drones!
I thought Texas didn’t care about school children. CoughUvaldeCough
what a great use of tax dollars. I’m sure the super rich asshole who owns this drone company has no personal relationship with with the legislators supporting this BS whatsoever.
Of course you’re right to be sure of that. Their wife, however, or their school buddy…
“If you’ve got something that’s preemptive, that’s immediate, that’s already there, you just can’t kill that many people in 10 to 15 seconds,” Marston said.
That’s their bar? Killing people for up to 15 seconds That’s not so bad?
How much you want to bet it’s using AI to determine who the shooter is. How much you want to bet is capable of false positives…
How much you want to bet is capable of false positives…
Confidently wrong false positives, but only more than 60% of the time.
“The high-tech drones, which are piloted by a team of former military men and nationally ranked professional drone racers…”
former military men
Cops.
nationally ranked professional drone racers
Jimmy is one of the cops’ kids and needed a job. He’s nationally ranked #2863883.
Gotta learn to read between the bullshit 😁
This was in response to someone talking about the drones being AI-piloted.
In 15 seconds? There’s simply no way.
Oh… They might log into their account for the remote piloting app, making the drone deploy within 15 seconds.
But then they have to navigate the school manually and find the shooter. But have you ever tried to navigate a high school you’ve never set foot in before?
The main building has three flores (2, 3 and 4), between 1990-2015 they added the A, B and C buildings. A and B are on a hill, so A only has floors 1 & 2, B has floors 3 & 4. You have to go through the science building to get to the C building. Last year they added the L building next to the track. Weirdly L is right next to A (but it’s shaped like an L) also it’s not physically connected to the rest of the buildings, you have to cross the courtyard. The science building doesn’t have a letter, but it’s next to the gym, you can’t miss it.
Alright pilots, the shooter is in the M building pop up extension. Go get em.
And a short 45 minutes it’s all over…
But on the upside the drone fleet will always be monitoring and collecting data as far away as their little robot eyes can see
Watch out, he’s not carrying a bible!
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Or if it could handle a case where someone manages to disarm a shooter and tries to turn their weapons on a second shooter.
Though I don’t have any confidence someone in that case would survive cops either, assuming they don’t just sit outside.
Heh, on that note, how well will the automated drones be able to differentiate shooters from police? Especially if it ends up being an off duty officer like in the case where they just sat around outside.
Hell if it’s not automated like others claim, how quickly can those pilots discern? Cops have been known to pull up and shoot people with weapons, holding assailants at gunpoint.
I also wonder what they’re planning on arming the drones with. I suspect a single shot would disable them… or a tennis racket.
Yeah though at least they won’t be in fear of their own lives in the moment.
Though proper prevention is the best option. It’s probably only a matter of time before a shooter goes in with strategy and tactics to take advantage of the chaos in such a situation.
How long until someone hacks one and terrorizes a school that way?
I’m sure that there are state-sponsored actors trying to do just that this very moment.
State sponsored actors? I’m 30% on that, 70% on one of the kids doing it. Maybe I have too much faith in today’s youth and their capacity for tech.
Maybe I have too much faith in today’s youth and their capacity for tech.
Sadly, I think maybe you do. 15 years ago, sure. Today, most of these kids aren’t using real computers. They grew up on Android or iOS devices, they’re using Chromebooks in school. They don’t actually know what a filesystem is, they don’t actually know what a network stack is. They’ve never just messed around with an os or pirated a video game.
I don’t think it’s the kids though, I guess I’m just pretty cynical about the current state of technology. It’s advanced a lot in the past couple of decades, but I’m not sure it’s really improved. It used to be that computers were a powerful tool that we could take advantage of, and they could make things easier and be a lot of fun to play with too. These days it feels like we’re the tools and the technology is taking advantage of us. And I think this generation that grew up on mobile devices has it the worst. Tech has really been able to sink its teeth into this generation, and they can’t escape it.
You say this, but there was that autistic kid that fucking hacked rockstar with a fire stick so hackers will always be around, but they probably always be the most autistic people you have ever met
It’s true, there’s always the exceptions, the edge cases. But if I’m thinking about this statistically, who’s likely to breach this first? How many hackers from column A are hammering on this, how many from column B? I just think state actors and corporate interests are in fact the thing to watch out for. There just seem to be much fewer gen z computer geeks than there were millennials.
Maybe Apple Computer colluded with the United States government dumb everybody down to keep themselves safe safer Who Knows lol
When you have a small elite, they don’t need to collude, they just develop a common climate of thought and common understanding of the future.
What pains me to think about - that these people are really brilliant for the most part, those whose names I know. Even Steve Jobs. And they were brilliant still for a few years after getting significant power.
That power still corrupted them, and this amount of “brilliant” is like a whole era, a whole phenomenon of humanity, being proven wrong.
Early 90s Apple is very nice to learn about, and early 90s Microsoft was powerful, but not evil yet, and early 90s Oracle was a really good company. And remember what Google was in its early years, they seemed the front line of the new age of openness and freedom. I won’t say anything good about early Facebook, but apparently it too managed to be good for someone.
So much for corporate propaganda.
Heh, maybe the problem started when they changed their name. They aren’t “Apple Computer” any more, they’re just “Apple”. That must have happened somewhere around 2005.
Autistic doesn’t equal genius.
Autistic special interest is not about knowing a subject well, it’s about fetish\fixation on that subject ; say, I’ve done a lot of fixing old AfterStep dockapps that don’t compile anymore, or programs from the 90s for X11, to reproduce the vibe of using a Unix-like system then. I still haven’t written a single Linux or FreeBSD driver. I haven’t even written a single Java program. BTW, found the old (Sun-era, judging by the icons and pics there ; old doesn’t mean obsolete for me, I’m fine with simple OOP and don’t need generics or lambdas or such, I know these are cool) “Java Tutorials” on the Oracle site and realized that those are almost as easy to use to make your own simple applications as TCL documentation, except Java is far more powerful (due to ability to use all the Java libraries around). And now I do know what I want to make, so the next weekend might not go in vain.
There’s genius (I dunno, someone like Wernher von Braun), there’s autistic (someone like me or your random strange kid, a real life Asakura Yoh), and there’s autistic genius (multiply the rareness of both and get the probability of a person being that ; I suppose the kinds of genius to make rare notable achievements are usually both, but not always).
Most kids are too fucking dumb. The blyats will do it.
Most kids
It only takes one.
Could be some incel hackers from 4chan. Like people who engage in swatting would like this.
See, but even the swatters are script-kiddie equivalents. Most of the ‘computer nerds’ that some people in this thread are fetishizing / waxing nostalgic about were just following advice and guides of much more capable adults in the various industries. So if any smart person starts releasing guides about the drones’ systems, then sure, we’ll see some kids hack them, but I doubt we’ll see it happen, considering the drones’ rarity and limited access for most folks.
state-sponsored actors
Interesting way to refer to the state of Texas
Between this and AI generated apps, hacking is sooo back
can fly through double-paned glass
um, how
Also I wonder how long it will take before this tech gets used for situations other than mass murder events
Oh it’ll be used for mass murder events.
Just not preventing them.
If they can be hacked, school shooters can stay home and kill people.
Why hack them when the company that makes them will sell one to you?
Why buy one when its probably going to use the same administration password as the rest of the entire district. Completely hack proof.
They have a “glass breaking lance” on the front
They’re armed with a 300 blackout rifle they can shoot through the glass
