• aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “I will tell you I was in one of the areas where I actually laid down on a bed. The bed was probably more comfortable than my bed at home,” said Republican State Sen. Blaise Ingoglia. “I’m not kidding.”

    Our overlords are literally doing the ‘let them eat cake’ thing at this point.

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    Remember folks, nazis did this last time, in Germany, too. A camp cleaned up and special is still a fucking death camp.

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    Can the world collectively CONDEMN this fucker already??? Force his sorry ass into Nazi trials like they did to those sick fucks.

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      Last time it took the world teaming up to put a red flag over the legislature building of the place.

      If it goes like last time, you should start stockpiling food, hiding your women and learning Cantonese.

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    Democratic lawmakers said they couldn’t take pictures or bring their phones inside.

    Why? There people are authorized. What would they do, arrest them?

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      From a political standpoint, it comes down to weighing the political cost of sneaking in a camera and possibly being arrested for trying to sneak photos out, and between the knowledge that anyone who’s listening damn well knows how fucking bad it is there already without having to see pictures. And the political value of acting like victims of fascism (which they unquestionably are) might be more valuable than showing pictures and video of horrors that Americans are already numb to.

      In short, there is more value in being denied the ability to take photo and video then there is an actually showing the photos and video. That way, people will assume the worst as their imaginations will allow rather than showing yet another video of people in horrific conditions. If that sort of imagery could motivate Americans to act, it would have already. The imminent threat to free speech is far more concerning to the people of this country as a whole.

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        political cost? getting arrested for outing a death camp is worth any “cost” in your politics. If someone is worried about their arc if they fight back against fascism then they’re actually fascist themselves.

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        Undercover law…people have buttons for cameras. Democrats can sort this…if they wanted to do it.

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          I’m sure they want to, but they don’t want to risk a hair on their head. They aren’t qualified to be in their jobs.

          There are dozens of ways we could get footage, from drones to undercover workers, etc. No one is gonna do it.

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            They aren’t qualified to be in their jobs.

            Oh the controlled opposition jig is still very much fooling the majority of constituents.

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              🤷‍♂️ no one is gonna do anything. We can point fingers all we want but even the people who truly are not okay with this will still do nothing. You, me, etc.

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            Cameras that are disguised as buttons. They even have tiny cameras that can be tucked in a bra that can see through clothing. Undercover cops use these types of devices for evidence during a drug buy or prostitution sting.

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        I disagree completely with you. People who know it’s bad aren’t going to do anything, and people who think others are overreacting aren’t going to care without proof.

        This is like a factory farm where all the animals are kept in horrible conditions. You cannot make a vegan out of “they are treated bad” but you can if you show them.

        I feel you are just making excuses for weak people who can do something but choose not to.

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          people who think others are overreacting aren’t going to care without proof.

          These people will never be satisfied, regardless of however, much proof and evidence you provide. It’s a trolling tactic known as Sealioning. Endless demands for proof while acknowledging none of them, regardless of how undeniable. It’s a delayed tactic to avoid ever having to admit that they were wrong or at fault, betting that you will eventually give up first.

          This is like a factory farm where all the animals are kept in horrible conditions. You cannot make a vegan out of “they are treated bad” but you can if you show them.

          You’re not gonna convince anyone with bad faith arguments based on niche morality. If you’re gonna cite the problem being that the farm is a “factory farm”, then the alternative is to, obviously, make it a humane farm. But, as a vegan, your agenda is too clearly shame people for eating meat altogether. That makes your criticism a factory farming, disingenuous, since the obvious alternative, human farming, isn’t didn’t even an option for you. Your problem isn’t with factory farming, your problem is with the fact that people eat meat in the first place. And you’re never gonna win an ideological war with an extremely dubious moral argument.

          I feel you are just making excuses for weak people who can do something but choose not to.

          And I think you’re being hypocritical of others, considering the context of your judgments when measured against your own actions, attempting to make/enact social change because you realize the hypocrisy and nonsensical position of your own argument.

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            If you’re gonna cite the problem being that the farm is a “factory farm”, then the alternative is to, obviously, make it a humane farm.

            Even with knowledge of factory farms, the general public (non-vegan) don’t seriously seem to be pushing back and pushing for a change in farming.

            Regardless of what vegans’ end goal is, spreading awareness doesn’t seem to be getting people to go for more modest changes either.

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              Perhaps, but you’re much more likely to get people to undertake modest to change than radical change.

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                That’s my point though. They aren’t doing a modest change when presented with information regarding factory farms. Because that modest change would come at an increased (financial) cost.

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        23 hours ago

        That would definitely be a big step in the wrong direction, but we may as well get it over with now.

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    I wish we could record statements like this and move their families there with no special treatment until they decide it should be shut down. Their elderly parents, their kids, all their loved ones. Then give their families a choice when the politicians says it should be closed so they can leave. 20 years of sentencing there to share. Where they can vote all 20 years have to be spent by the statement maker, of divided equally among their family. Every one of those families would be out in a few weeks and the politicians would be imprisoned for 20 years, many of which would die from mistreatment. A lot of them would never see there families again because their families would know they are vile disgusting people.

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      Their families already know they are disgusting people. Most of their families are also disgusting people.

      Disappear their families to camp? They’d love that. You don’t really konw who these people are, do you? You believe that they think like you in any way. That’s just wrong.

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        I didn’t say disappear. It’s known where they are, and they get to vote to get out. The punishment is just exaggerated but aimed towards the entire family because that is what these policies are aimed at, damaging entire families/communities