How is it legal for them to give our health information to AI??? Without explicit consent?? And why are they able to access and look through it like this, when normally records are protected from this?
I can think of several reason by the way this should be illegal:
AI is experimental, and this is further an experimental use of AI. Test subjects, especially medical test subjects, must be able to know if they are being experimented on and must be able to consent
AI adapts and “learns” from input and can be prompted to spit that data out - it is not secure for protected and private information
Want to double emphasize it is not a secure system for private information laws
AI also is an outside company and is not the government, we did not give them permission tonaccess our health data and the government themselves has no warrant or emergency need to access our healthcare data either - this isn’t a legal way to access health records
The short answer is there’s a good chunk of Americans on some form of Medicaid (regardless of what name it wears) and in exchange for healthcare provided by the government, they give access of their medical PII to the government because the government is their healthcare insurance provider.
But that doesn’t mean any rando in the government can access anyone’s health data on a whim, legally. You have to have a reason to access it. Even just accessing date of birth is protected.
Listen. I don’t disagree with you. But 2 things. 1. The government used to have people in it that would uphold such restrictions on access. Lots of those people have been culled by the current administration. 2. The government didn’t need a reason to input your data into a computer program for access when they switched over from paper files. They didn’t need a reason when they switched to a more “universal” health data management system as the technology evolved. And they will say that this is just another evolution of that technology. So in essence they already have their “reason” and they already have people in place who will let them get away with it.
The judicial branch is still working in many states, so this argument is valid. People are getting sent to concentration camps for this, so it’s important to discuss, so they can eventually be released.
Those computer programs have several laws about private info and protections. All digital information is subject to these laws. And the AI violates those laws.
Seriously, go look up privacy laws and how it relates to medical software. Pretend you are a doctor wanting to download software for your practice and go look at all the websites with legal advice on how to do it. It is a big deal.
The federal government leaked my PII including my social security number in 2015.
I’m aware (my mother works in healthcare, specifically with patient PII), of both the laws and regulations involved. But what I’m saying is, this is not going to stop them from excusing their behavior and there’s not enough states to oppose them in the long run.
This is what happens when we allow idiots who don’t have any critical thinking skills to elect an idiot intent on tearing the system apart to the highest office in the land. Twice.
There’s laws against this administration firing or laying off GI’s. There’s laws that should have prevented to firing of whole government agencies. There’s laws in place that are supposed to be protecting our information from DOGE. Those laws have been sparingly enforced, and are constantly under threat because the orange idiot had more than one term to stack court appointed judges and legislators.
Even when this administration isn’t doing that they’re doing so many illegal acts at one time that our justice system couldn’t keep up even without people working against it from the inside. They’re speed running fascism over here.
Thiel and the rest of the crony bunch are going to continue to develop Palantir to “adhere to the laws and regulations in place” while taking advantage of the fact that AI isn’t really being regulated at all and most of the people holding public office don’t have a good understanding of what it is, let alone what dangers it presents even without PII involved.
If you think they care about privacy laws, I think I could probably find a bridge to sell you.
How is it legal for them to give our health information to AI??? Without explicit consent?? And why are they able to access and look through it like this, when normally records are protected from this?
I can think of several reason by the way this should be illegal:
taking the first question at face value: they could use an agentic system to keep the data within their own ecosystem and run the models locally
What has Trump ever done that has required consent?
Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Easy there. You’re missing the most important part.
…laws don’t matter to maga.
Well some of us has judges in our states that DO care so it’s good to be aware
The short answer is there’s a good chunk of Americans on some form of Medicaid (regardless of what name it wears) and in exchange for healthcare provided by the government, they give access of their medical PII to the government because the government is their healthcare insurance provider.
But that doesn’t mean any rando in the government can access anyone’s health data on a whim, legally. You have to have a reason to access it. Even just accessing date of birth is protected.
Listen. I don’t disagree with you. But 2 things. 1. The government used to have people in it that would uphold such restrictions on access. Lots of those people have been culled by the current administration. 2. The government didn’t need a reason to input your data into a computer program for access when they switched over from paper files. They didn’t need a reason when they switched to a more “universal” health data management system as the technology evolved. And they will say that this is just another evolution of that technology. So in essence they already have their “reason” and they already have people in place who will let them get away with it.
The judicial branch is still working in many states, so this argument is valid. People are getting sent to concentration camps for this, so it’s important to discuss, so they can eventually be released.
Those computer programs have several laws about private info and protections. All digital information is subject to these laws. And the AI violates those laws.
Seriously, go look up privacy laws and how it relates to medical software. Pretend you are a doctor wanting to download software for your practice and go look at all the websites with legal advice on how to do it. It is a big deal.
The federal government leaked my PII including my social security number in 2015.
I’m aware (my mother works in healthcare, specifically with patient PII), of both the laws and regulations involved. But what I’m saying is, this is not going to stop them from excusing their behavior and there’s not enough states to oppose them in the long run.
This is what happens when we allow idiots who don’t have any critical thinking skills to elect an idiot intent on tearing the system apart to the highest office in the land. Twice.
There’s laws against this administration firing or laying off GI’s. There’s laws that should have prevented to firing of whole government agencies. There’s laws in place that are supposed to be protecting our information from DOGE. Those laws have been sparingly enforced, and are constantly under threat because the orange idiot had more than one term to stack court appointed judges and legislators.
Even when this administration isn’t doing that they’re doing so many illegal acts at one time that our justice system couldn’t keep up even without people working against it from the inside. They’re speed running fascism over here.
Thiel and the rest of the crony bunch are going to continue to develop Palantir to “adhere to the laws and regulations in place” while taking advantage of the fact that AI isn’t really being regulated at all and most of the people holding public office don’t have a good understanding of what it is, let alone what dangers it presents even without PII involved.
If you think they care about privacy laws, I think I could probably find a bridge to sell you.