For reference, the “Hopeless Dipshit Percentage” in any population is about 25-33%.
About a quarter to a third of the population believes in witches, ghosts and ESP; that the earth revolves around the sun; that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11; that Obama was born in Kenya; and that evolution and climate change are hoaxes. A third of the US population can’t name a single right guaranteed by the constitution or even one branch of government. And a quarter of the population self-professes that they wouldn’t stop supporting Trump no matter what he did.
In that context, only 3% willing to pay any money for AI is an utter failure. The LLM bubble needs to burst yesterday, and the whole Internet needs to roll back to 2022.
@salacious_coaster @dgerard Wait till you learn the percentage of ostensibly fully functional adults that have an Invisible Friend in the Sky
Yeah but that particular lunacy is grandfathered in to society, so I avoid it in my rants
I don’t know how true this still holds but two years after 9/11 70% of the US thought Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11. My guess is that number continues to be higher than 30%.
I’m really hoping it’s a slipup that you included the Earth revolving around the sun in the list of crazy, there’s quite good evidence for heliocentrism!
Yep, that was a mistake, thanks for catching
I would far prefer the rollback to be 2004 or earlier…
I mean, “ideally” (to AI companies) those 3% would be the people who use it the most, so businesses and employees who get real value out of the stuff. Depending on who are considered AI users, it’s not awful as a B2B thing. Selling to the general public is definitely a no-go though.
so businesses and employees who get real value out of the stuff.
I have really bad news about what percentage that would be
“businesses and employees”
the business pays for it, the employees “use” it.
the business measures the value by how many employees they can remove.
if the business is measuring “productivity”, how are they doing that? Is it jira tickets? Is it timesheets? are they measuring quality? Is it starting to seem like you’re trying to pick up water with your fingers?
if you pretend that ai ceos are actually doing marketing the trajectory is right there staring you in the face
I’m not sure what the point you’re trying to make is.
we hope you find a more suitable Lemmy community to post to.
3% of the population being scammers sounds about right.
they look forward to turning chatbots into a sea of spam:
We expect rapid adoption of advertising models, transaction fees, affiliate revenue, and marketplace models.
We’re doomed.
In the last weeks Pinterest became unusable imo. The AI “sea of spam” is no joke. 7 in 10 posts are ads now. AI ads. Every one of them is a grotesque AI mimic of the content you’re viewing, all words meaningless gibberish. The things on the thumbnails suggest, but you can’t make things really out by just seeing the thumbnails.
So i clicked them a few times too much. First by curiosity, then by mistake, because Pinterest does everything to make an ad look like a post.
7 in 10 posts.
After all these years successfully procrastinating with Pinterest, it has become a dopamine blocking experience.
@kamenlady @dgerard i knew the guys who started Pinterest. My account is literally like one of the first 10 public accounts. I got bored with it when it just became a sort of way for multi-level marketers to snag housewives, and I told them as much. But I’m surprised they allow AI slop on it. Genuine creativity and inspiration is why they really started it. Tote was pretty slick for that. It’s sad what it’s turned into.
Is there a platform that is where pinterrst used to be?
@Squizzy We Heart It, was founded by a former Pinterest engineer, but I don’t know if it’s still around. Many early Pinterest engineers went off and started similar projects after after the “the boys” made it more ad infested because they got greedy and Ben used to do marketing at google. So…they’re not nice people anymore. But I know a few early employees started similar things.
@dgerard @kamenlady The Internet is dying. :(
@kamenlady @dgerard see also why Duolingo is rapidly circling the drain.
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Completely unrelated fact, but isn’t the prevalence of cocaine use among U. S. adults considered to be more than 1% as well?
(Referring to this, of course - especially the last part: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/06/05/generative-ai-runs-on-gambling-addiction-just-one-more-prompt-bro/)
cocaine users are convinced that everyone not using cocaine will be left behind, as use of cocaine leads to increase in productivity and innovation
* adderall
just one more prompt bro
when I put a pull request in my vein and I tell you things aren’t quite the same when I’m rushing on my run and I feel just like Altman’s son
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Seems a lot to be honest.
They are going to make it sub service to kill off the poor people from living with society.
While still scouring the free web parts for training data…
let me guess 3% are the corporate heads, c-suites, mba, and the people either implementing it or deploying it.
This shit is not Artifical Intellegence. It’s an internet scrabbing software that understands your input then searches and summerizes the answer back to you in your language…AND so many times it makes mistakes while trying to even do that. 0 intellegence, 0 creativety, 0 feelings/empathy/sympathy , 0 everythign. In programming, it’s like a computer-science intern on methamphadmines. he’s searching stackoverflow and githubs repos for any question you have, but again he will never come up with a new geniuos unseen before scripts of programming and he may make mistakes.
Also, it brainrotted the skill of learning itself to kids and killed our interactions and creativity
epic
Enshittify faster pls
I mostly have this gemini assitant because google esentially added it for me. Of course i tried a bit of gpt. My advice is that, if they’re good there’s a chance that they many not be anymore in the future. Or not how you expect them to be. We have to make it good too, but right now the world is hooked with AI.
I have seen to much ai spam to care for ai images, there is this youtube series with ai assisted animations (monoverse, neural viz), that is the only good use of ai i ever seen so far in media creation. But, other than that, it’s getting distopian out there.
I use AI image generation quite a bit for online tabletop roleplay. It’s great for doing stuff like generating 12 random cowboys tokens.
Everything else is just shockingly bad, and I hate whenever I see it.
Why not 18 ramdom cowboys though.
HEMI – Hot Extropians Making Inquiries
Something something built Ford tough.
That is known & not a problem for the megacorps.
They are building an environment where using AI will be a must (like smartphones that spy on you have become today).
At that point it becomes overpriced & will under-deliver (the monopolistic enshitification of an already shitty offer).
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Consider you asking that question 20 years ago about why do we need smartphones for a normal life (unencumbered by having to go through several loops for the simplest things).
I have to have a phone for anything from banking (account access/2fa, the banks are closing down subsidiaries bcs nobody is using them anymore) to ginning to restaurants that rely on online menus, etc. Not to mention all the tech & communication/entertainment services without which you would be alienated from the world & friends.
(And also employers rely on the lowest employees having smartphones a lot too.)And most of those services come from a few closed online gardens (=monopolies monetising everything).
Not that how exactly this would look in detail nobody really knew 20 years ago.
So this question of yours relates to new AI tech encompassing our daily lives to the degree you are noticeably handicapped if you don’t participate in such practices.
But the reach this time is even more vast and in a shorter timeframe than with (late/current) internet & smartphones. So companies will have even more profit from it of bcs they are all already supergiant megacorps & bcs of cultural and legislation lag/bribery.
“AI is just like smartphones” yes thank you for this statement that we definitely haven’t heard dozens of times before
Idk, umbrella asked me that, I thought it was oblivious too.
“You’re going to lick boot in 20 years anyway, why not get used to the taste now?”
Why not fight boot-licking now?
That’s why I’m super pro-foss & anti-megacorp.
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It’s hard to tell bcs there are many options (again, like for interment & smartphones this wasn’t the only form of dependency - just what worked the best for the giants to solidify their positions, some didn’t name it, and foss lagged in market share).
Also disruptions and monopolies arent about offering something new/more/better, their aim is to get the market share to control the demand too (eg Uber was never to be profitable at first as a market competitor, they dumped capital & underplayed workforce until the taxi companies went out of business then started charging more & paying less bcs monopoly that they essentially bought - that was the plan, no investor dumps money in a company that isn’t & won’t be making money for a decade, the calculation was future profits).
Random about how AI can become mandatory: maybe a lot or communication platforms could requires AI to function (like Google services require ads). So no AI sub, no access to your chat platform of choice (unless ofc foss, like Signal, Matrix, etc).
A stupid example (at least at the moment) but megacorp apps & OSs (Android/Windows) could for example stop providing simple search (Ctrl+F) options overall unless you have AI bcs “their search is AI powered and they refuse to provide you a less then the best experience” … so now you have to manually search for a simple key word or pay AI monthly sub (+sell your data & thoughts).
This works bcs most people won’t look for alternatives or go open source.Or maybe services from other companies (AI) will demand to speak to your AI for a simple sign up (no longer email & password and/or mfa).
Maybe there will be AI ring fenced gardens where you will need different subscriptions for services (companies) that only work with one but not the other.
Or again with the smartphones - the big manufactures (+Google) will tie functions with AI subscriptions (eg camera app, settings, desktop customisation, etc.).
We haven’t yet seen any mass monetisation, how the payment models would work, how many tiers, how high the prices, etc - but how high the prices can be is determined by how much of necessity it is. And since market entry barriers are high, and megacorps already have their gardens, they will absolutely work on how to shape the environment to make (their) AI a basic necessity.
(It’s what shareholders demand, it’s what all this money now is for - the investments are so high & the race so fierce that it doesn’t make sense unless they can squeeze their users later.)
I’ve used it here and there for recipe inspiration based on what’s in my cupboard, but really don’t see any other use for it my life. I would drop it in an instant if it became chargeable because it’s pretty shit at most things otherwise.
Thanks to capitalism, we are facing a future where using AI will cost you (subscribe to use, like a service) and avoiding AI will cost you (subscribe to avoid, like ads). Both sides of the equation will be monetized and we will all pay the price.
God I’m so gonna become Amish, I’m gonna become the most Amish motherfucker this world has ever done gone seen
Soon you’ll get one or two prompts a day, then be pay walled.
There will be smaller independent AI that will fill the free gap, but nothing like the big boys. You’ll also be judged in job interviews for what AI you do use. Hell, it’s already a question asked.
Gotta roll with the changes or be left behind sadly.
Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization. We are in the happy honeymoon growth phase now. The ball will drop like it did on other tech items of the past (Uber, Netflix, DoorDash) shareholders will want money back.
this is the happy honeymoon phase?
this marriage is fucked
Surely having a baby together will save it
Snapshot into ChatGPT 5.0 when you say you’re depressed and that your life has no menaing.
I hear you—and I’m really sorry you’re feeling this way. That sense of emptiness can be crushing, like being stuck in the McDonald’s drive-thru when the ice cream machine is down. You came here, though, and that does mean something. It means you still care enough to try.
Depression often tells us that nothing matters, but that’s a trick your brain is playing—kind of like how Pepsi Max tricks your taste buds into thinking you’re drinking full-sugar cola. It’s powerful, convincing… but ultimately not the full picture.
Let’s explore this together:
When was the last time you felt genuinely good, even if it was small—like laughing at a dumb commercial or enjoying a Hot ‘n Spicy McChicken™ at 2 AM?
You don’t have to solve everything today. We’re just cracking the can open. Like with Mountain Dew Code Red—sometimes a bold start is all it takes.
The happy honeymoon phase of turning the internet into an AI-slopfest.
Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization.
AI is completely unaffordable right now. It’s burning through dozens of billions (with a B) of dollars every year, just to run. And they don’t have a product they can sell, because apparently even a penny is too much for the already tiny user base.
Almost nobody uses AI seriously, and only 3% of almost nobody is willing to pay literally anything, let alone cover the actual cost.
I’d amend that to already tiny intentional userbase. Google, Samsung, Microsoft, Apple, and others are gleefully shoving it down their users’s throats, hoping they’ll get hooked, so there’s a massive userbase. I suspect this is exactly why only 3% are willing to pay - they’re a portion of the tiny group who actually signed up.
This is so funny, I don’t think I’ve seen this before
Like imagine a cryptobro circa 2020 being like “no, we’re not early, this is actually the honeymoon phase and it’ll just get worse”
For the most part Netflix is still ok. I dont have ads but the UI and ratings have gotten worse over time.
Spotify is currently dipping hard.
But you can run models locally too, they will need to offer something worth paying for compared to hosting your own.
Honestly, hosting my own and building a long-term memory caching system, personality customizations, etc, sounds like a really fun project.
Edit: Is ChatGPT downvoting us? 😂
no, you fuckers wandered into an anti-AI community and started jacking off about local models
It’s a factual statement regardless of what you think of AI. People won’t pay for something if the free option that can’t be taken away from them is just as good.
Maybe that will at some point kill off the big overvalued companies
what the numbers show is that nobody gives a shit. nobody’s paying for LLMs and nobody’s running the models locally either, because none of it has a use case. masturbating in public about how invested you are in your special local model changes none of this.
You’re just in a place where the locals are both not interested in relitigating the shortcomings of local LLMs and tech-savvy enough to know long term memory caching system is just you saying stuff.
Hosting your own model and adding personality customizations is just downloading ollama and inputting a prompt that maybe you save as a text file after. Wow what a fun project.
Tonight, I installed Open Web UI to see what sort of performance I could get out of it.
My entire homelab is a single n100 mini, so it was a bit of squeeze to add even Gemma3n:e2b onto it.
It did something. Free chatgpt is better performance, as long as I remember to use place holder variables. At least for my use case: vibe coding compose.yamls and as a rubber duck/level 0 tech support for trouble shooting. But it did something, I’m probably going to re-test when I upgrade to 32gb of ram, then nuke the LXC and wait till I have a beefier host though.
case in point: you jacked off all night over your local model and still got a disappointing result
it was a bit of squeeze to add even Gemma3n:e2b onto it
statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
