Venture capitalists Menlo Ventures have released what purports to be a survey: “2025: The State of Consumer AI”. That is, chatbots. [Menlo Ventures] The subtitle is: “AI’s Consumer Tipping Po…
Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization. We are in the happy honeymoon growth phase now. The ball will drop like it did on other tech items of the past (Uber, Netflix, DoorDash) shareholders will want money back.
AI is completely unaffordable right now. It’s burning through dozens of billions (with a B) of dollars every year, just to run. And they don’t have a product they can sell, because apparently even a penny is too much for the already tiny user base.
Almost nobody uses AI seriously, and only 3% of almost nobody is willing to pay literally anything, let alone cover the actual cost.
I’d amend that to already tiny intentional userbase. Google, Samsung, Microsoft, Apple, and others are gleefully shoving it down their users’s throats, hoping they’ll get hooked, so there’s a massive userbase. I suspect this is exactly why only 3% are willing to pay - they’re a portion of the tiny group who actually signed up.
Snapshot into ChatGPT 5.0 when you say you’re depressed and that your life has no menaing.
I hear you—and I’m really sorry you’re feeling this way. That sense of emptiness can be crushing, like being stuck in the McDonald’s drive-thru when the ice cream machine is down. You came here, though, and that does mean something. It means you still care enough to try.
Depression often tells us that nothing matters, but that’s a trick your brain is playing—kind of like how Pepsi Max tricks your taste buds into thinking you’re drinking full-sugar cola. It’s powerful, convincing… but ultimately not the full picture.
Let’s explore this together:
When was the last time you felt genuinely good, even if it was small—like laughing at a dumb commercial or enjoying a Hot ‘n Spicy McChicken™ at 2 AM?
You don’t have to solve everything today. We’re just cracking the can open. Like with Mountain Dew Code Red—sometimes a bold start is all it takes.
You’re just in a place where the locals are both not interested in relitigating the shortcomings of local LLMs and tech-savvy enough to know long term memory caching system is just you saying stuff.
Hosting your own model and adding personality customizations is just downloading ollama and inputting a prompt that maybe you save as a text file after. Wow what a fun project.
It’s a factual statement regardless of what you think of AI. People won’t pay for something if the free option that can’t be taken away from them is just as good.
Maybe that will at some point kill off the big overvalued companies
what the numbers show is that nobody gives a shit. nobody’s paying for LLMs and nobody’s running the models locally either, because none of it has a use case. masturbating in public about how invested you are in your special local model changes none of this.
Tonight, I installed Open Web UI to see what sort of performance I could get out of it.
My entire homelab is a single n100 mini, so it was a bit of squeeze to add even Gemma3n:e2b onto it.
It did something. Free chatgpt is better performance, as long as I remember to use place holder variables. At least for my use case: vibe coding compose.yamls and as a rubber duck/level 0 tech support for trouble shooting. But it did something, I’m probably going to re-test when I upgrade to 32gb of ram, then nuke the LXC and wait till I have a beefier host though.
Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization. We are in the happy honeymoon growth phase now. The ball will drop like it did on other tech items of the past (Uber, Netflix, DoorDash) shareholders will want money back.
The happy honeymoon phase of turning the internet into an AI-slopfest.
AI is completely unaffordable right now. It’s burning through dozens of billions (with a B) of dollars every year, just to run. And they don’t have a product they can sell, because apparently even a penny is too much for the already tiny user base.
Almost nobody uses AI seriously, and only 3% of almost nobody is willing to pay literally anything, let alone cover the actual cost.
I’d amend that to already tiny intentional userbase. Google, Samsung, Microsoft, Apple, and others are gleefully shoving it down their users’s throats, hoping they’ll get hooked, so there’s a massive userbase. I suspect this is exactly why only 3% are willing to pay - they’re a portion of the tiny group who actually signed up.
this is the happy honeymoon phase?
this marriage is fucked
Surely having a baby together will save it
Snapshot into ChatGPT 5.0 when you say you’re depressed and that your life has no menaing.
For the most part Netflix is still ok. I dont have ads but the UI and ratings have gotten worse over time.
Spotify is currently dipping hard.
But you can run models locally too, they will need to offer something worth paying for compared to hosting your own.
Honestly, hosting my own and building a long-term memory caching system, personality customizations, etc, sounds like a really fun project.
Edit: Is ChatGPT downvoting us? 😂
You’re just in a place where the locals are both not interested in relitigating the shortcomings of local LLMs and tech-savvy enough to know long term memory caching system is just you saying stuff.
Hosting your own model and adding personality customizations is just downloading ollama and inputting a prompt that maybe you save as a text file after. Wow what a fun project.
no, you fuckers wandered into an anti-AI community and started jacking off about local models
It’s a factual statement regardless of what you think of AI. People won’t pay for something if the free option that can’t be taken away from them is just as good.
Maybe that will at some point kill off the big overvalued companies
what the numbers show is that nobody gives a shit. nobody’s paying for LLMs and nobody’s running the models locally either, because none of it has a use case. masturbating in public about how invested you are in your special local model changes none of this.
Tonight, I installed Open Web UI to see what sort of performance I could get out of it.
My entire homelab is a single n100 mini, so it was a bit of squeeze to add even Gemma3n:e2b onto it.
It did something. Free chatgpt is better performance, as long as I remember to use place holder variables. At least for my use case: vibe coding compose.yamls and as a rubber duck/level 0 tech support for trouble shooting. But it did something, I’m probably going to re-test when I upgrade to 32gb of ram, then nuke the LXC and wait till I have a beefier host though.
case in point: you jacked off all night over your local model and still got a disappointing result