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      And for Chakotay’s arc, and for Voyager’s storylines in general, and for the time he wouldn’t let actual trans actors play in the TNG episode that was about trans folk, and for making nearly all the ladies wear skintight everything with corsets, and for…

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    The Mitch McConnell of Star Trek … he just won’t die or leave or give up office or just go away

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    Between the shit he had caused and the drek that is nu-trek, I’ve gotten lb to the point where I feel him to be almost a lesser evil.

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        NuTrek is a term that is commonly used in a derogatory fashion about anything Star Trek made after the last Kelvin movie. Often while saying at the same time that it is either “Bad Star Trek” or the typical whiny gatekeeping nonsense of “It’s not Real Trek/Doesn’t understand Trek”, as if they somehow are the only ones who do.

        Star Trek fans have a habit of screeching at the top of their lungs whenever anything new is added before gradually calming down and accepting it. People lost their mind over TNG, over DS9, over VOY, over ENT and over the Kelvin movies and now even the Kelvin movies are being looked back on more fondly.

        Protip: If anyone ever dismisses the entirety of Newer Trek like this user just did? You can pretty safely dismiss them yourself because they just threw out 5 entire shows (and maybe 4 movies) while generalizing them all.

        Also dude is just straight up arguing that Rick Berman, the guy who hated a woman so much the only way he’d allow her to continue being on the show was if he got to canonically write in that her original character was raped to death is “a lesser evil” because he doesn’t like the new shows.

        Just let that sink in. The people who blindly hate the newer Trek shows are so psychotically unhinged they’re now like “Yeah, but the dude who abused everyone who worked for him is a lesser evil because I don’t like the new shows.”

        I have less than zero respect for these people.

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          I appreciate your thoughtful and detailed response.
          I was doing the "why grandpa, what do you mean by “those people” thing to bait them into some self-reflection, but I’m not sure it would have made a difference anyway.

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            It never does. Only time seems to make any difference. They seem to forget why they hated it, watch it and get over it going “Huh this isn’t as bad as I remember” and then pretend they never acted like it in the first place.

            Give it 10 years and people will be offering me money for my Stamets username on like… everything.

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    Rick Berman: I can’t die, I’ve still got Star Trek to ruin!

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        His involvement ended after Enterprise. From there, we’ve had JJ’s stooge Alex Kurtzman. Kinda wish he’d drop out and inject Trek with some new blood. We’ll see how Tawny Newsome does as a writer/producer for Academy.

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        No, he was hired as a producer for TNG, then became Executive Producer when Gene died. He left the franchise after Enterprise ended.

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    At first I only saw the first two lines and I wasn’t sure, but after reading the title I already knew where this was going. Thoughts and prayers.