An operation by Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) has hit “more than 40” Russian bombers at air bases “in the rear of the Russian Federation,” a source in the agency told the Kyiv Independent on June 1.

“Enemy strategic bombers are burning en masse in Russia — this is the result of a special operation by the SBU,” the source said.

Video provided by the source shows what appears to be a row of heavy bomber aircraft on fire at an undisclosed location.

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    It’s not only what they did, but how they did it.

    First of all the loss of this aircraft is substantial. They don’t have many more of these aircraft and likely not all are operational at every time, especially now when it’s hard to get parts. And these planes are full of western parts.

    And another thing, is not like Russia can throw everything at Ukraine, it’s got other borders to watch.

    The second part is how they did it. They snuck into Russia with weapons and carried an embarrassing blow against a country that is basically fighting this war to keep its status as a super power. And this country that they don’t even consider as a country did this to them from the inside. Thats just weak and it’s there for everyone to see. This is shouting for everyone to hear: Russia is no super power, it’s no power at all.

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      Just to put it in perspective, Wikipedia is currently listing the “before being destroyed” numbers, along with a note of “obsolete source”.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Russian_military_aircraft

      Before this attack, their bomber force was:

      • Tu-22M: 56
      • Tu-95: 47
      • Tu-160: 22

      It’s apparently the first two that got hit most. 40 total gone is a significant chunk of their whole bomber force, and they ain’t going to be able to replace them.

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      " They snuck into Russia with weapons and carried an embarrassing blow"

      Like us after 9/11?

      " Russia is no super power, it’s no power at all."

      And if that’s true, why do we need NATO? For the group hugs and crying?

      You are spewing the same kind of propaganda the other side says about you.

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        It’s a bad day to be a Putin apologist. How’s the weather in St. Petersburg today?

        None of what you said is relevant or coherent. 9/11 was an attack against civilians by terrorists. This was an attack against military targets by state actors at war. NATO exists for soft and hard power projection, and to discourage intra-state conflict within Europe. Further, the weakness of the Russian Military as contrasted by their posturing has been stark. I don’t personally believe Russia remains a superpower, with their ability to project power now restricted to digital battlefields and hard power only adjacent to their borders.

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          If not for nukes, nobody would give a shit about Russia. Their army has fluctuated between being excellent and being worse than useless for its entire history, and they’re currently on a low end of that cycle. As for the Russian navy, the Cold War might have been the only time period where it was worth a damn.

          So no, they’re not a superpower. They’ve been running on nukes and momentum since the dissolution of the USSR.

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        And if that’s true, why do we need NATO?

        Because even a destitute regional power can still bombard your cities, kill your civilians, and occupy your territory if they’re willing to suffer the results.

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          How horrible. Is this the only country doing this? Let me guess, when WE do it we have the right reasons?

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            Let me guess: Russia should bomb Ukraine, because USA does it in other places.

            You are so pathetic.

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                He never said it is. Most people don’t think it is.
                We want NATO as a security, should we ever need it.

                It’s like paying for insurance: let’s hope you never need it, but are glad to should the need arise. It’s not hard to understand, mate.

                We all hope NATO can sit idly by and make plans they never ever need to execute.

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        I don’t care for comparisons, but the comparison to 9/11 is not really accurate.

        This is a war between neighbouring countries, one of which calls itself a super power, yet has not only completely failed to achieve it’s goals, it has depleted itself doing it. It has practically destroyed all it’s weapons, which were before the war thought of as limitless, it has reduced it’s gas pump economy to ashes, it has destroyed it’s status and already lost it’s sphere of influence in Syria and elsewhere and … wings wheel above in silent loops… If you know what I mean.

        NATO is of course needed beyond Russia, stupid question. Plus Russia still has nukes, which would be safer if Russian state somehow survives this war.

        What I’m saying is no propaganda, just a very very sober assessment of the current situation.

        Russia has lost immediately when it was clear, that it cannot take Ukraine. It’s perceived status as a super power went down the drain and nobody is taking it seriously anymore. It cannot project power, it cannot hold a sphere of influence.

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          Christ almighty, I would read that if you could tell its from it’s.

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    Bro I love Ukrainians so much and the respect for you HEROES is astonishing, SKY HIGH LOVE YOU GUYS KEEP IT UP !!!

    The SBU claims that 34 per cent (‼️‼️) of Russia’s fleet of bombers, with a combined value of more than €6 billion, has been eliminated with this operation ‘Spiderweb’. The figures cannot be independently confirmed because Russia and Ukraine are both silent on military losses for strategic reasons.

    May the spiders crawl all over putin and eat him alive.

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        What about people in Sudan? There’s a war everywhere in the world and will be untill we die probably, offcourse I want democracy and freedom for everyone… Thats why Im commenting how proud I am of Ukranians for standing their grounds and showing this much strength!!!

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          There’s a war everywhere in the world and will be untill we die probably

          This is defeatist thinking. Mankind had, in all its thousands of years, never gone to the Moon, but then came 1969 and we did it. Everything’s impossible until you actually do it. The past is useful data to extrapolate from, yes, but that doesn’t mean that everything that went before is an immutable fact of existence for all time.

          We don’t lack the ability to end war, we only lack a plan.

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          Sure, why aren’t we as proud of Palestinians? Why is one war mongering aggressor ze universal bad guy but the other one our great democratic ally?

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          Pick your side, they’re mutually exclusive! Only those who cheer on palestinian deaths can oppose the russian attack.

          What a shit troll.

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        Insane that people would want Muslims to triumph over the Jews. It’s between cutting off your head with two eyes vs cutting off your head with the one eye.

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          I don’t want Hamas to conquer Israel but I would like the Palestinian people to stop getting genocided and/or ethnically cleansed. In other words, I would like for Israel and Palestine to reach a peace deal that allows BOTH of them to live in peace, along borders as close to the 1949 Green Line borders as possible (obviously a lot has changed since 1949 and some changes are unlikely to be ever willingly undone, but it should be possible to get close - certainly closer than they are now).

          I also think that this is almost certainly going to be impossible as long as Netanyahu and Hamas are in charge. Palestinians need to get rid of Hamas and Israelis need to get rid of Netanyahu.

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            It was a joke. Both sides has their catalysts. One is Hamas and the other is Netanyahu.

            Circumcision vs Beheading. What a choice to have. Ironic that the Jews are on the other side of genocide. They’re probably going “So this is what the Nazis felt like!”

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    Clever and economical, and 100% high value military targets. I wish the guys who pulled this off, all the luck they can have. :)

    It is possible that Russia’s selection of AWACS planes (about 10 left) decreased even more.

    The “sheds” were more like wooden boxes. They had a fake roof, the upper layer of which a mechanism could remove. Between the roof beams - “nests” for drones. This cargo was given for transport to ordinary truck companies. There’s even a video where cops have detained a trucker while drones are taking off from his truck and heading towards Belaya airfield, ordinarily unreachable to Ukrainian drones since it’s 4000 km away. I’m afraid the trucker will be facing some hard times. I hope they understand he was deceived, though, and eventually let him go.

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      Yeah, about that trucker, he’s fucked. It’s not his fault but he’s definitely collateral damage here as Russia typically doesn’t take kindly on messengers with bad news, let alone an innocent trucker who accidentally towed in the apocalypse.

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          Yeah, this is something we can cheer for without even a hint of equivocation because it’s the destruction of weapons instead of the killing of people. Though I’m sure there were probably SOME human casualties, I’m comfortable with Ukraine targeting weapons and ordnance as much as they want.

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    Im hearing bridges and submarines also. They did this perfectly. By not talking to a known Russian asset in the whitehouse.

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    This is going to have the secondary effect of exploding rats but times a thousand.

    During WWII the brits planted dead rats filled with explosives around german facilities, as it was common practice to simply throw dead rats into the boiler fireboxes, where these rats in questions would explode and hopefully deal damage to important equipment. Almost no real damage was done but simply finding the rats was enough to make the Germans so paranoid that the extra caution and paranoia did more damage than the rats ever would have if they had gone undiscovered (and thrown into boilers as planned)

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      With the 9/11 reference above, it had a similar effect on airport security. The TSA has been making traveling hell ever since and I’m not sure if they’ve actually stopped any real threats (cursory search says nope).

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        And they’ve consistently failed to catch threats in tests.

        Security theatre is expensive though.

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    If this is true, if Ukraine really has dealt as much damage to the Russian bomber fleet as they claim they have, then this is tremendous.

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    Too bad this attack probably cannot done another time. And another and another.

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      If it’s true this was 34% of Russian bombers, they could hopefully do two more.

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      If there’s one thing I’ve learned about Ukraine over the past few years it’s that they are incredibly resourceful. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if they have other novel attacks in various stages of planning. Of course they now have to wait and see how Russia changes their defenses as a result of this attack…

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    In general, this is a very good start. Another great operation by Ukraine. Just like the Russian military flagship “Moscow” And our prophecy that Moscow will sink the same way (there is a huge salty sea under Moscow… therefore…) But we must know that Putin is stubborn, irrational and illogical and he has little time. Little money. He has already started paying in gold for drones… Therefore, all this talk about peace is actually a very alarming signal - Russia will soon attack Poland (Putin always plays big) opening a second front is standard practice for Russia. Especially if russians are sure that Western countries and the USA will do nothing to help Poland. How many times they promised Poland protection and how many times they betrayed Poland… Maybe then Poland will realize that Ukraine is not an enemy but the only true friend of Poland.

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    I’m always surprised that you’d leave stuff lying around like that when at war.

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      2500+ miles from the front line? where would you stash your arsenal of strategic bombers?

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        Exactly. The real story here isn’t that they destroyed a bunch of bombers, destruction of the enemy’s supplies and materiel is normal warfare. The real story is that Ukraine wasn’t just being defensive, they went on an aggressive long range offensive, deep into Russian territory. The underlying threat is that if the Ukrainians can hit the Russian bombers, they can hit Russian cities. Russia has been bombing Ukrainian civilian targets, and Ukraine has now proven that they could do it too, if they choose to.

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        Underground xmen style or submarine carrier is the only solution I can think of besides the obvious cloaking field.

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        Underground, 5 miles away from the “official” position, while I put decoys everywhere.