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Fox News appears to have removed their DOW ticker in a pattern for the company, choosing to block out the steep drop in DOW points after Trump’s tariff announcement
A British owned tabloid posing as an Irish paper reporting on American news. There aren’t many worse sources.
A shame on the memory and legacy of Michael Collins and James Connolly.
Ahh the age of golden shower America. Isn’t it gargle
Trump is reliving the glorious P tape days.
Let’s use this to our advantage.
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Another bloodbath day on the DJI:
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Sorry not related, but why do all conservative American news women have this over done make up and fake looking hair? It really moves them into creepy territory. Like sort of evil clown creepy.
MAGA style
This is actually a very big thing in conservative areas. It’s like they all want to be that princess that they were told they were at 3 years old.
They are trained at an early age to dress up at beauty pageants. Where guys like trump “grab em by the pussy”
I think television in general put way too much makeup on women but maybe that’s just what I think.
Many conservative American women strive to look like this, not just the news anchors. Among the women in orbit around Trump there are several with this same look. It’s all very artificial, with lots of makeup and plastic surgery, but apparently it’s an ideal in Republican circles.
trump chooses people like pam bondi, because it looks his daughter.
Bruh…
It’s why he married his wife. Dude really wants to fuck his daughter. In fact so does his best friend vince mcmahon
Barbie-wannaby, including the plastic
The other day we were watching a clip of that Goldigging Whore Press Secretary walking up to deliver an outdoor press conference, and she had two blonde clones trailing behind her. We all commented on how weird it was.
thats her replacement, incase trump wants to oust her.
Just the way God made them.
Superficial? Quite possibly.
It is what their owner men want.
The explanation is simple - they’re literally Nazis, and they like the Aryan archetype.
Some have suggested it’s because of puritanical upbringing. Girls learn how to do their makeup and the like by experimenting etc, but many puritanical families may act like a teen doing so is “dressing like a whore” or something. So they grow up it having the experience,and don’t know what to do so just imitate what they think they should look like instead of finding the look that looks good on them.
TV executives like Roger Ailes setting a standard conservative news anchorwoman aesthetic to draw in their target audience who goes for that classic American blonde. No ethnic minorities need apply. Pant suits discouraged: gotta put those gams behind transparent counters to work for the leg cam.
I heard he used to watch fox news on mute because he cared more about how it looked than what they said.
And without the stock ticker they do look fatter, don’t you think?
You see it a lot in this waking nightmare.
They think the stepford wife look is a vibe. (It isn’t.)
its a typical blond barbie hire for fox.
Fox ‘news’*: anything I disagree with is terrorism, trump isn’t a bigoted idiot tanking the economy, there’s no class war, we’re just entertainment not news 🤡
Reminds me of how his administration stopped reporting on COVID testing. Obviously if you suck at something, you should just not tell anyone, even if it affects the entire American constituency in a massively dangerous way.
The Third Reich was terrible when it came to reporting on civilian deaths.
As an old fart I’ve never lived under an administration that I considered a real threat. Even Reagan, who was raged against by the left and beloved by the right, at least had some restraint and considered his actions. Each president did something that I didn’t like but I never felt like psychopaths had taken over and were just letting their whims and manias run rampant. Their personalities also felt reasonable and at the very least respectful of others. I also never felt that a large chunk of my fellow citizens were a threat to democracy. The evangelicals were always that way but felt like a fringe group before.
Reagan’s just took time to poison the system. Everything we’re seeing now is from that time period, built up.
reagan also had alzheimers at the time,
Hell of a thing, ain’t it? I remember the tail end of Regan as a child. I come from evangelicals, these are the sort of events I would expect them to freak out about, but instead, they’re willingly along for the ride.
Citing fox “news” as trusted media source ought to disqualify you from voting. Prove me wrong.
I saw it but I cannot find it. But I recall Fox News admitting they’re not news when pressured for disseminating fake news.
Multiple times, in multiple court cases. Tucker Carlson argued that no regular viewer would consider his content news or factual.
The fact that they get away with this is infuriating. They should have to put a Surgeon General warning label on the screen like tobacco product have on the package.
“WARNING: This content is for entertainment purposes only. We acknowledge that most of the content presented is not factual, and most of the opinions are not based on reality. This platform was created explicitly as a right-wing propaganda outlet to spin damaging news stories and prevent another Republican from being impeached after Watergate. Viewing the content and opinions presented will leave you less informed than not viewing any content at all”
I like this idea. Why should warnings be designated for physical consumption only?
I’ve seen enough 1AM porno commercials in the early 2000s to know that these warnings already exist for some content.
Throw up that warning with a mandatory font size and duration like a law and order disclaimer on a black screen.
I’m seeing the King Of The Hill meme right now.
“Those viewers would be very upset right now if they could read”
Maybe force some bottle blonde to read it to them. Seems to be the only way to get info past the barrier.
they did have nazi barbie due a salute on tv once. Laura ingarham, if you look at her history shes every bit of a terible person.
Thank you! That helps narrow the search. I’m trying to fund him on video saying it, or the court transcript, so when I’m told “fake news” and sent Fox articles I can clarify things effectively.
I also would love to see them forced to show that warning. Maybe when we have a functional govt admin again.
They used it as a defence in court. Multiple times. Something to the effect of “no reasonable person would believe they were being truthful/ serious.”
Edit: apparently this defence was only used for shows like O’Reilly and Tucker Carlson, not the whole channel. Personally I don’t think the average FN viewer would be able to discern the distinction, but who knows.
murdoch purposely seperate fox from his main company, newscorp, so the liabilities of a lawsuit would not affect his other propaganda networks.
It’s not their whole channel, it’s about the talk/opinion shows presented on their channel. They defend Cucker’s show and Oreilly’s show as entertainment, knowing full well their base can’t tell fact from conjecture, history from projection, or plan from opinion.
Thanks for the clarification!
IMO they should be prevented as labeling themselves as a news source if they called themselves satire in court.
They called themselves “entertainment” not “news”
During the Dominion voting scandal they revealed the fact that they’re all liars and propagandists. They settled before even more information came out but Fox Viewers will learn it and then go crawling back to them anyways.
I feel like it’s a very Fox News-y suggestion to ban select groups of people from voting.
I agree to a certain extent, but what’s become clear to me as I get older, is that democracy represents the will of the electorate, and when your democracy is setup to give the dumbest 50% of the electorate the most representation, shit falls apart.
If we want a progressive, effective, and beneficial government, then we need an electorate that will vote for it. For a while, we’ve tried providing education and mostly free information access to the populace so they can make informed decisions, but it’s evident that the voters don’t care for that. The only other way to get past that information apathy is to eliminate their representation.
I don’t expect this to be a morally defensible position, but more “if we want to survive as a nation, we need to do something about people living in an alternate reality formed by regressive hate propaganda”.
In reality, “Democracy” as invented by the Greeks was never intended to be held by the uneducated. Ever citizen got a vote, but frankly not everyone was a citizen.
The rights of a citizen came with certain expectations, and that included knowledge of the Ars Liberalis, or “Liberal Arts”, which…far from today’s demonized meaning created in order to attack higher learning, literally translated in the greek world as “the exercise of freedom”.
In other words, citizenship and voting rights obligated a person to be knowledgeable of things like Logic, History, Rhetoric, etc… You TRAINED to partake in the affairs of state just like you would prepare for any other task that requires skill and THAT was what granted you the priviledge of citizenship. (Well…that an being part of the wealthy class…)
Modern “Democracy” is predicated on the opposite; not just citizens that are ill-informed, but citizens that are so intellectually incurious that they can’t be bothered to exercise their right properly.
Absolutely.
I don’t think the qualifications for voting should be “white wealthly land-owning men”, but there has to be a filter we can use to validate that the person voting as at least 2 brain cells.
I’d like to have a basic test with blanket true/false statements around recent political talk… Maybe things like…
The 2020 election was conducted fairly without significant evidence of fraud that could have changed the result.
Vaccines have a direct and undeniable link to autism and long term damage.
Tariffs are an export tax paid by the country sending the product to another country.
Individuals with visas and green cards are not illegal immigrants.
Just a quick test like that, and then weight the vote based on how many statements they identififed correctly as True or false.
You need a way to prevent this from being corrupted. Conservatives would love to use this to prevent black folks from voting. They’re single minded and will chip away at it for decades.
Perhaps honey pots? Set up fake meetings to discuss how to prevent “those people” from voting, and everyone who attends is barred from working in government for life.
Ideally, this would filter out most if not all of the support for those conservatives who’s entire platform is based on lies and fear. MTG, Boebert, etc… They only exist as public figures because they went along with Qanon conspiracies.
Sounds more like we need to more heavily regulate sources of misinformation, rather than deeming some people too stupid to participate in the system.
The same Constitution that upholds the right to vote is the same one that protects freedom of speech. I consider both options equally damaging to the underlying fabric of this country. The point being that republicans are already eroding the foundations of this nation to poison our water and air, shift wealth from the poorest people up to the richest, steal the money we’ve put aside for social services, and implement a Christian theocracy. It’s happening, so we might as well throw out the constitution as well, but use that gap to build a society where people are protected from discrimination because of immutable characteristics, and that builds for the long-term health, wellness and safety of it’s citizens.
Preventing corporate entities from presenting falsehoods as facts is not a meaningful infringement on free speech.
If it is, then it’s clear that truly free, totally unrestricted in any way speech isn’t a good idea.
Maybe corporations shouldn’t have constitutional rights.
Glances at Citizens United
My local fox news is actually pretty good at reporting basic local news, it is the national programs that are foaming at the mouth propaganda.
All they’re trying to do there is control the narrative for local news. When it’s not beneficial for them to spread propaganda they won’t. They should still carry the warning. That station can either de-affiliate with Fox, or actual local news can fill the gap.
America’s North Korean propaganda network at it again.
Somehow this is the most dystopian thing I’ve witnessed recently. Just straight up disappearing reality once it doesn’t fit the regime’s narrative. Chilling.
The US is what Americans think China is.
… and they’re not wrong. Now we have two authoritarian world powers, yay!
Trump and Xi both want unlimited terms. Xi got his and Trump is jealous.
War is peace. Truth is lies.
Gave a book club with elderly. Chose 1984 for January.
A woman literally said after we had discussed this that the salute wasn’t the salute.
The Jewish woman next to hers fingernails were about to grip through her own wrist.
Shocking to see the dissonance in real time like this and then.
I feel like the original quote applies here pretty well, no real need to change it…
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
Should be updated to include “empathy is sin”.
Racism is virtue.
Empathy is weakness
I don’t think these freaks view it as a sin, just as a weakness… which is maybe worse.
I feel like, as a non American, ignorance is bliss.
But I’d realize all of this is insane shit even if I didn’t hear about it daily.
Well feigned ignorance can totally be a strength, but actual ignorance is only worth your luck or others’ protective instinct
It is so much easier and comfortable to just close your eyes to the troubles of the world, but it also means that you won’t see what’s coming and will not be able to act. So this sort of sensory overload with negativity and craziness is kinda the point. The more people are tuned out and overwhelmed, the easier it is for assholes like Musk and Trump to push their agenda through. It’s also talked about in 1984, where the quote comes from
Let’s add: Poverty is wealth
I think the other famous one applies even more:
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
—George Orwell, 1984.
Next, 1984 will be banned in US
The worst part? There is no need for it. 1984 can only happen in places other than america, after all. America is a shining beacon of beautiful democracy that is #1 in everything, ever. Anyone saying otherwise is just a whiny bitch social communist.
The maga idiots are not in their position from logic, but from following the cult, and the cult is the current president.
and now Wealth is Poverty
Beans are eggs
France is bacon
Knowledge is power
Yes thank the nearest Republican to you.
“If we stopped testing we wouldn’t have so many positive cases”
This is hardly new.
As in…you need to be blonde to not be carried away to a gulag in Guantanamo.
Man this sounds familiar. Need blonde hair and blue eyes?
it seems to me like the people should have no problem coordinating an attack on fox news that would take them off the air. i feel like that’s an easy one to do that doesn’t require a leader, just anonymously post maps detailing the infrastructure of their studios, where security guards are posted, any known passkeys, etc.
If this hypothetical were to come to pass I personally wouldn’t call it an attack, so much as a day of love where nothing was done wrong.
Eh. I don’t care about Internet points, I just think it’s funny. And even though we’re on Lemmy we should probably still be careful about out-and-out calling for attacks against a rogue president’s favorite news station.
We can go politely ask them to stop broadcasting. In numbers.
no offense, but can we please stop with the goose and gander comparisons? it just feels like trying to slam dunk for internet points. we all know they’re hypocrites. let’s just focus on solutions rather than finger pointing.
that would take them off the air.
Not sure how hard that would be. Their disaster recovery plan would have to be pretty bad not to be able to switch to another geographic location in a hot minute. And if they’re still in Rockefeller, you’d probably have a hell getting past the elevators without them shutting it down. They probably have backup satellite uplink so you can’t just knock out their fiber.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for another Max Headroom, but I think we need to shut them down with fairness in broadcasting laws, or, gallows, just sayin’
well good luck with the regulations part. i’ve lost all faith in lawful good actions.
Ostrich mode, activate!
Trust in the Trump! His Orange Grace, for He is playing 47-D chess!
If his supporters believe in chem-trails, vaccines causing autism and maybe a flat earth then I’m not going to waste any energy looking to them for any sign of self awareness and to reconsider their choices.
Yeah. I see some people trying to talk down to those of us who just call them fucking idiots. “Well, is that any way to get them to see your point of view? How does that help any?”
My brother in Christ, we’ve tried doing that for the LAST 8 YEARS. If they haven’t gotten any more wise since then, and in fact doubled down for round 2, what the fuck else can you do but call the dumbass duck a dumbass duck?!
We Europeans are sooo sory for taking advantage of you.
Can you now fuck off and leave?
