I wish it was then it may make sense. Every time I use the MacOS terminal. It’s like an uncanny valley so similar but the more you look the more horrific it becomes. I can’t even say it’s Unix is the problem as freebsd makes complete sense.
macOS may not be FreeBSD, but it definitely is a BSD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Unix#/media/File:Unix_history-simple.svg
Also some part of NetBSD
Whatever else it may be, macos most certainly Is Unix unfortunately
Who on earth actually cares? Those 12% are probably not really wrong either, apparently.
Can you fiddle up a weird black screen with lots of $ and # symbols? Yes, its a Unix and its probably Linux.
MacOS is odd because I say so and because most users of it will insist on their screen being darkened and brightened at the same time. I don’t like black being rammed into my eyes.
macOS is UNIX, certified UNIX actually.
But I mean, if someone had the merest impression of macOS and was very familiar with Linux and never bothered to look any further then I’d understand. Maybe they only played around with macOS a little and saw the terminal app had bash and most all the familiar tools as on Linux. It’s not hard to see why they might’ve thought it’s Linux based.
I think 10% of people believe nearly anything. It’s basically the rounding error for a survey.
Honestly, if you had asked me 10 minutes ago “Is MacOS based on Linux?” I would have gotten it wrong. But if you asked “Is MacOS based on UNIX or Linux?” I would have gotten it right.
Isnt
zshthe default macos shell?It has been since 2019 but before that it was bash.
They switched to bash in 2003 with Mac OS X 10.3; before that it was tcsh.
It is now, but it was
bashbefore.But in any case once you start doing anything remotely advanced you’ll find the individual command line utilities are wildly different between macOS and Linux. They seem (are?) much closer to FreeBSD than GNU utilities.
Closer, maybe. Similar, not.
Unix, Linux, whats the diff? Its all the same.
<ducks and runs>
I love the idea of licensing comments XD
You’re probably the only one, but thank you for saying that. 🙂
Does the lack of licensing in this comment mean it’s okay to steal?
Nope, the opposite: in the absence of an explicit license, the default is “all rights reserved.”
I don’t think just thanking someone is real content. /shrug
(Edit: I also declare all that I post/comment is licensed by me as well, in my user account description area.)
But answering someone who thinks they are being funny or annoying, by explaining things to them, would be considered content by me.
I kind of suspected it might be something like that, but it was a genuine query that, yes, was intended to be mildly humorous. I don’t intentionally annoy except maybe my wife.
Your indirect accusation made me smirk, but as far as I’ve noticed you’re the only one who does this without doing it on every comment, which seemed interesting enough to observe.
Yeah, I tend to push back a bit, as I wish people would discuss the subject at hand that the comment by me was made about, and not the license that I used in my comment.
Ah. Well, I have questions or comments I could make about the license. However, while I feel passionately about Unix and Linux and OSS in general, I don’t think I have anything useful or interesting to add to the thread that hasn’t already been said.
I wish you luck both with finding engaging conversation and with your licensing.
You are not new to lemmy, it says you registered a year ago, but is this the first time you meet a comment with license info? You are one of today’s lucky 10000.
I’ve seen this on multiple users, usually it’s some anti ai license. Like the laws stopped facebook from torrenting copyrighted books, an anti ai license will stop the next ai startup scraping the fediverse.
I’m only aware of myself, and the one other person who I learned to do this from, on Lemmy. That was tenish months ago, but still.
I haven’t seen anyone else, even the other person I mentioned previously, since having returned to Lemmy recently.
Be nice if you were right, but I haven’t seen it really.
GET HIM
<Looney Tunes running away in place noises>
They probably are thinking of the FreeBSD stuff in macOS.
Well that explains a lot… 🤦🏻♂️
I mean it’s kind of like the “humans evolved from monkeys” or whatever primate you want to substitute for monkey. No, they branched off from a common ancestor though.
I mean lots of people get mixed up between BSD, Linux, UNIX, and all the variations over the years. Is MacOS a version of Linux? No. Is a human a type of ape? No. Are MacOS and Linux way, way closer than either are to Windows, hell yes. Just like people are way closer to being monkeys than swallows. There’s a lot of mixed breeding in both examples and a lot of total incompatibilities as well.
Is a human a type of ape? No.
12% of humans believe we aren’t apes
Edit: hopeful the number is actually this low
12% of humans believe we aren’t apes
All humans are apes, those people more so than most.
Humans are apes.
Except humans aren’t just any apes, humans are great apes.
Given the topic, this distinction is highly relevant.
Go back and read the first post in the chain again…
Pft, everyone knows macOS is just a fancy DE on top of Hannah Montana Linux
12% of people believed JFK was going to be resurrected a year ago or some dumb shit. The point is, more than 1/4 of the population are not smart.
Most people think UNIX and Linux are the same thing so this makes sense. Obviously to us they aren’t but for most people it really doesn’t matter. I’m sure they’ll still sleep at night.
I’m not that surprised, a lot of people around me dot have a clear picture of what is the relationship between MacOS, Linux and Unix is. So I suppose some of them would guess that Linux is a modern fork of Unix and MacOS based on Unix.
I know a guy who worked on Unix in the '80s and he is very clear that Linux / MacOS are just Unix.
Yes but no. Some folks are purists and feel that the actual code must derive from the original BSD/SysV code.
I get that it specifies tech workers, but still my first reaction was that 12% is pretty low. You can find a much higher percentage of people who are confidently wrong about way more important things.
Sillies! It’s based on GNU!
GNU/MacOS/TimApple/Proprietary/Unix Which is all apart of the SystemD Operating system
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as GNU, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. GNU is not an operating system unto itself, but rather a gathering of the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components that together with a Linux kernel comprise a full OS as defined by POSIX.
(Finally it’s the other way around 😆)
What I find more shocking about this assertion is that I have no facts to back it up, but I believe it, and I’m not surprised.
Of course someone here has a link to some actual research … right?
What are you looking for?
Actually, what OP is referring to should be called GNU/Linux. Here’s a link to do some more research https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html
Is apple free? No? Then it’s either violating the GNU license or it is not based on it
I’m familiar with Linux, having used it daily since 1999.
I’m referring to the research about tech workers thinking that MacOS is based on Linux.
Since OP is sharing it, op should back it up, not you
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I would be more surprised if 12% of “tech workers” know what Linux is at all.
Fwiw: I work in a call center as basically a more knowledgeable tech for our client facing team to rely on for help and only about 1% of them have any familiarity with Linux in the slightest.
I wonder about the framing of this question, like another comment mentioned, it’s kinda like evolution where MacOS and Linux have a common ancestor, I could see the wording throwing people off.
“Is MacOS based on linux” seems to be the wording used?
I’d bet less would fall for, “Is MacOS a Linux distribution?”
Edit: Ha some people in the comments had similar thoughts, in addition to Linux and Unix being nearly synonymous to all but those who are very into that kind of thing.
Edit again, if anyone else is curious https://youtu.be/jowCUo_UGts?si=3nSGWhispI7Vcfgm
