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Mangold told io9 last year shortly after his involvement in a “Star Wars” movie was revealed that his project would center on the origins of the Force and how it was “understood, wielded and harnessed”
Yes, things like that have never caused ire in fans before…
The problem with lore is if you use it when it makes sense it’s great and when you disregard it when it makes sense to make a better story and it’s good no one really notices. Taking from the star trek world the trill was a cool concept and they wanted to reuse that species to tell a cool story with dax but didn’t want to cover up Terry’s face and wanted the joining to be a blending rather than the Symbiote be the dominant consciousness.
So you know how they resolve the changes… They didn’t and it was good and almost no one cared and at most it was fun for nerds to try to come up with headcannon to resolve the two but should never brought to the screen as it would sound like fanfiction as it always does.
From trying to fix the parsec goof to why do klingons look different in TOS. It never turns out well unless you have a compelling story driven angle then like I said we don’t notice. As you as a writer are driving the lore not letting the lore drive you.
They sure do come up with creative ways of saying “we’re gonna donkey fuck this, and you’ll fucking
consumelove it.”“but we haven’t loved fucking the donkey the last 6 times you made us, please don’t make us fuck that donkey again”
“well, sunshine, you sure as hell gonna love it this fuckin time, i tell you what”
Did any Star Wars movie ever care about “lore”? It is a fairy tale (not even Fantasy) set into a futuristic setting. It has as much lore as Cinderella, if at all.
I’m not a Star Wars guy but I was under the impression there’s a pretty rich lore with all the canon books, no?
Yes and no. There is an absolute avalanche of Star Wars media with knotty, interwoven stories charting all sorts of characters and their escapades before, during, and after the films’ time periods. However, 99% of this was jettisoned when Disney bought it. I believe they brought forward the original films, the prequels, The Clone Wars, and maybe a handful of other things, but all other media was siloed into the “Legends” continuity. Frankly, it’s a move I understand. While there are standouts among the Legends stories, there’s also a ton of dreck, made quickly and cheaply to cash in on the Star Wars boom of the 90s.
Whats funny, though, is that Disney’s Marvel style approach to Star Wars (interconnected TV series, movies, games, etc.) has just started the rat’s nest of continuity snarls and incomprehensible lore all over again, with the same highly uneven results as far as quality goes.
I suppose I should have expected that with Disney after the Midichlorian (?) thing
Just going back in time doesn’t change the lore requirements. If anything back in time is harder as you have to show a less advanced society that can become the one that exists.
not if you’re producing a show like dune prophecy you don’t, you can obviously show a society and technology cannon which is projected not to change one iota in 10 thousand fucking years, and morons will be like, hmmmmm interesting, sure, makes sense. blech.
That’s pretty much how the Star Wars galaxy works. KOTOR is set 4000 years before the events of the original trilogy, and it’s basically identical.
A “biblical style epic” about the Jedi with no lightsabers. I’m sure this will please the most toxic fan base in the world the way he is hoping.
Why would league of legends players care about this?
Ok, one of the most toxic fan bases.
I’m sure we can watch them invent lightsabers, hyperdrives, and discover midichlorians. Maybe they can crossover and find the Planet of the Apes—that would be a wizard Easter egg.
Maybe we’ll find out the Dark Side comes from anti-midichlorians instead of just human nature. Someone get me Hollywood—I’m sitting on a goldmine of ideas here!
Yeah but the ideas Lucasfilm/Disney want to use are more in the line of:
The Force will originate from a group of pastel colored beings called Care Bears combining their magical powers, and their handler, called Captain Planet, loudly proclaiming “by your powers combined, I declare the force created!”
Then we’ll have the illegitimate brother of captain planet, lets call him Darkstepper, wanting to harness the new magic for himself, devises a way to extract it from the Care Bears, and turn it into dark magic.
But Captain Planet comes to the rescue and makes the Care Bears agree to release all combined magic into the air to prevent misuse, unbeknowst to them they will dissolve from this action, but in the end they see they will live on in the stream of all encompassing magic created from their being.
Oh, we’ll also need a throwback, so they give us “Horses in Space”… somehow.
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This is what we will get when they proclaim “screw the lore/we’re not bound by lore”
In closing: Why create something within an exisiting IP if you feel you don’t want to be bound by the existing ip in the first place?
Dang. Missed it by that much.
They filled up every single gap from episode 1 to 9 (well except that whole emperor returning thing), so it makes sense to do something completely different.
“Somehow”. The emperor returned somehow. See, tidily wrapped up in one word.
Didn’t one of the Mandalorian seasons offer a pseudo explanation?
I think they had something about force sensitive clones. Bad Batch also showed the emperor starting the project. They’ve been pretty active in trying to tie in their trilogy while staying at a distance.
Those were all attempts of fixing the utter mess they created after the fact.
A bit like dropping dozens of raw eggs on the floor, putting a mop on top and sweeping it around between living room, kitchen and bathroom then loudly proclaim “see it’s all tied together”.
Why did his clone look like he had wounds from RotJ though?
Consistent inconsistency, Disney’s greatest strength.
Mando started it and Ahsoka is still continuing that line of thought, yes (with the still upcoming season 2).
That’s probably a good way to go, though I hate the idea of doing “the first Jedi.” That being said, if the movie fucks everything up, 25,000 years is a lot of time for whatever they break to be fixed and covered up.
Can’t possibly be worse than TRoS in any event.
