Why is it always femme people this bullshit is directed at? Why aren’t the hyper masculine tattooed manosphere influencers ever chastised for their jingoistic tribal alt right nazi sigils engraved on their bodies?
Because graffiti is artwork you do on someone else’s property.
And in the maga brain, a man’s body is his own, but a woman’s body…¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I hate that this makes sense
Yup conservatives don’t see an individual happy with their own choices. They just think, “if that was my wife/daughter I’d restrict her freedoms so she wouldn’t have any tattoos.”
Well considering the common refrain from them recently was the question “What is a woman?” I have no confidence they even understand the concept of a femme body.
misogyny
In a word yes. And also the inherent threat of violence that allows for the patriarchy that precludes misogyny.
I just Googled “anti tattoo meme” and most of them were making fun of macho guys.
Cope much
I’ve never been a fan of tattoos. They look awful and, in the case of women distract from beauty, not add to it. That said, they can do whatever the hell they want. It’s not my body or problem and they ain’t hurting anyone.
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Maybe not all women actually want you to be looking at them thinking ‘Wow, beautiful, yum.’ So many women get so much shit from men every day all the time, often since they were still wearing school uniform. Like you say, it’s not your body and they ain’t hurting anyone. I just think it’s really easy to understand why some women want to take ownership of their skin when there’s so many arsehole men thinking they’ve got a right to stare and touch it.
Did you stop reading after the second sentence or are you saying that he’s not allowed to have that opinion because some girl somewhere might disagree with it
He can have an opinion and it can also be really boring misogyny.
Except there is zero misogyny in that statement
They look awful and, in the case of women distract from beauty, not add to it.
I don’t really want to spend a lot of time doing some critical analysis here but give it a think. Implies beauty is important for women and not men, and their beauty is contingent on his viewing. This is basic male gaze stuff.
Woman does something.
Someone thinks it’s not good.
“WOW MISOGYNY”
Plot twist: these tats would also be ugly AF on a guy. Now what, mfer.
Plot twist: these tats would also be ugly AF on a guy. Now what, mfer.
They didn’t just say tattoos are ugly. They went out of his way to focus on how they detract from a woman’s beauty. Not men’s beauty. The subtle “women should look beautiful for me” is what’s not good here.
Their take could have been worse. They acknowledged that it’s harmless and not their body. That’s good.
It’s a picture of a woman, why would they talk about men’s beauty? Jesus.
Jesus was beautiful, and he had a fabulous tattoo somewhere you’d never guess.
The subtle “women should look beautiful for me” is what’s not good here.
Offering benefit of the doubt, one might assume he referred to women’s beauty in particular because this meme is about a woman, or perhaps he isn’t gay/bi, and doesn’t think about men’s beauty. Or both. Or maybe something else. Misogyny is one of the possibilities, sure, but only one of the possibilities. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I don’t think there’s enough there to take the route of condemnation, personally.
They look awful and, in the case of women distract from beauty, not add to it.
You did the thing where you gave a very personal, subjective, opinion as if it was a pure fact. You probably meant “it distracts me from their beauty” but you wrote it as if it’s a universal truth that applies to everyone.
You did the thing where you policed the way someone else phrased their opinion by purposely misunderstanding their intent. He literally began his post by stating an opinion.
And his opinion was basic misogyny
Ehh I dunno… I don’t agree with him but we don’t have to preface our opinions with “this is just how I feel, but…”.
If I say “this pizza is horrible”, it’s clear that it’s just something I think and not everyone has to share that opinion. The subjectivity of the statement kinda speaks for itself y’know?
“this pizza is horrible” isn’t misogyny though, so it doesn’t benefit from the distancing.
I don’t think that building has very nice tits
Agreed. Now look at this building.
*Mechanical- and brick-sounding motorboat noises
Art on art is appreciated twice
how does this relate to the NSFW goth girl fetish community ?
Lemmy has NSFW content?! Since when?
Sopuli.xyz defederates nsfw instances. And most nsfw stuff is on dedicated instance.
Guess I’ll have to consult the bones to see if it is worth the trouble to create another profile just for NSFW surfing.
Plenty of mobile clients allow you to use multiple profiles simultaneously.
Have you seen those cars that have every bumper sticker imaginable on them? Also covered with lots of hand-scrawled signs with every random religious/cultish phrase possible. That’s the vibe I get from these tattoos.
Just like the vehicles, those body adornments tell me all I want to know about the occupant.
Just like the vehicles, those body adornments tell me all I want to know about the occupan
Like what?
How is it any of your business though?
If i saw this person on a beach, it wouldn’t be my business…however this person is displaying it on social media, so it actually is my business to have an opinion.
Is this sarcasm?
The tatoos would not stop me.
Graffiti is a spectrum: on one hand, you get beautiful murals that add something to the structure, making it more than what it was.
On the other hand, you get dicks and swastikas.
Tattoos are the same way. There’s a difference between someone having a beautiful sleeve done and someone who has TRUMP tattooed on their forehead.
I was stuck at some train tracks in my area, and some of the graffiti on the trains left a gap around the safety information about weight limits and such.
Not all of them did. Those that didn’t had to be painted over and re-written, but only the safety section. They left the rest alone.
There was some mutual acceptance happening on both sides of the effort that warmed my heart.
An example to further your point: I have an album of these I took earlier this year. It was exciting to stumble across.
When I click the image, it flips over the X-axis. That’s weird as hell.
Same here, on sync.
Damn, I feel left out. Jerboa didn’t do it. I wonder what the difference was
Neither does Voyager
Speaking of Voyager, do you think New Glenn will launch on New Years Eve?
There is probably some info in the exif data that is being ignored by one and not the other.
There’s definitely a difference between guerilla art and “fuckup was here.”
No no, they have a point.
I don’t see any nazi iconography in the image OP posted, can you point them out to me?
I was applying the claim to something else
If you are talking about graffiti on buildings then you haven’t been to Frankfurt if you’ve not seen nazi imagery
Lemmy cannot handle abstract reasoning. If you change the scenario at all to make a point, they shit circuit
I’m not bothered by the amount of tattoos. I’m bothered by the nazi swastika front and center. I would be just as bothered if they were just wearing a nazi arm band or Trump hat.
You’re pretty close to the point.
The point is that it’s subjective, and given the right content or quantity, it looks bad to you.
No, I think I’m on the point. I don’t care about other people’s appearances and I don’t care to subject other people to what I think self respect looks like. I’m bothered by what their morals are and how they’re going to make that my problem. Nazi tattoos mean that person wants to make life worse for other people. I’m not bothered by the dye, but by the ideas they represent. The woman in the picture doesn’t have any hate symbols that I recognize.
You find the tattoos distasteful for a reason of your own. I share such a reason, but it’s your own. Therefore you find the display graffiti-like: a blight on the visual landscape (in that interpretation of grafatti)
Edit The significance of Nazi iconography being distasteful is an easy one, and that’s why it was used as an alternative display to prove the point.
If you have to change the scenario to make your point then your point doesn’t belong in this comment section.
It’s a common way to illustrate a point, by describing it with other variables.
Your reply is telling lol
Telling of what? The dude brought up something that didn’t happen in the image and being like “Oh yeah well you’re wrong because of something irrelevant”
We really didn’t need to bring the “criticizing our community in the third person” farce over from reddit. You are Lemmy too, and I suspect you can handle abstract reasoning, yes?
Thinking you’re a special online community is also a reddit trope.
I was applying the claim to something else
What are you applying the claim to?
Why the reference to illegal Nazi iconography in Frankfurt? The building posted looks to me to be in the contiguous US.
You posted an image of a person’s mugshot who has a swastika on their forehead and I assumed you were conflating their tattoos to the person in the original image of this post.
The building is most likely in São Paulo. Not that it matters for for the point you’re making :)
There’s no Portuguese in any of those tags. Three of the tags are east coast crews. If I were to have to put a location down I’d say North East Miami FL.
What are you applying the claim to?
People with nazi tattoos
Why the reference to illegal Nazi iconography in Frankfurt? The building posted looks to me to be in the contiguous US.
I thought you might not have known racist graffiti existed
were conflating their tattoos to the person in the original image of this post.
Oh no, nothing about her. Just the “Tattoos = graffiti, guys” part was applied to the person I posted
Oh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding on my part. Thanks for the clarification.
Oh my god! I bet she’s on one of those disgusting porn sites too! But which one? There are so many. Can someone point me in the right direction so I can make sure to blacklist it.
I’d fuck that building.
God damn thats hot. Someone put a lot of work into that building.
All these comments and not a single one telling me who she is. Smh my head
Reverse image search ftw https://www.instagram.com/bmarkhaa?igsh=MWJ1eTI1MmZnZjVrMw==
Both looks bad. It’s too many tattoos on one hand, and pretty scrambled a bad looking graffiti on the other hand.
