The only thing I disagree with here is Win8 being apparently better than Win10.
Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen, and while Win8.1 did help, Win10 was by far the better implementation of PC Metro IMO.
Having said that, Win11 is exactly where it needs to be. It’s all of Win10’s worst traits cranked up to 11 with a heaping of it’s own bullshit and spyware on top
Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen
So many people say that but I actually liked the menu. It opened very fast and you could far more quickly find and hit the right tile than that stupid nested programs tree that was the norm in the start menus of earlier Windows versions.
I’d say considering that telemetry started to creep in primarily with Win 10, 8 was indeed better (meaning less bad).
This implies that Linux is rising but still worse than the worst windows os 🫣🫠🫤😴🤧🤮🥴
the graphs are separate, not superimposed. I agree it’s confusing
Wasn’t 98 the precursor to ME? I thought 2000 was the server version (or something like that)?
Yep. In the beginning there were two threads of Windows garbage: Win NT (for companies, with NT kernel) and (MSDOS-based) Win 9x for peasants. Win 2000 was the “last” Win NT and Win Me was the last Win 9x.
That’s not 100% true as Me used something called “Real mode DOS” which limited the OS interactions with DOS and Windows XP was an evolution of the NT kernel, and all subsequent windowses come from that kernel (Vista, 7, 8, etc… and the Server variants).
Win Me was the “Mistake Edition” because it was half-baked, most of Microsoft was focusing by then on the next iteration of NT and they even didn’t ship to developers the Me version but rather Windows 2000.
And probably Windows Me was on the knowing about 9/11:
“System Restore suffered from a bug in the date-stamping functionality that could cause System Restore to incorrectly date-stamp snapshots that were taken after September 8, 2001. This could prevent System Restore from locating these snapshots and cause the system restore process to fail. Microsoft released an update to fix this problem.”
Linux is so bad it’s worse than everything else even when others are enshittifying aggressively? Got it!
Over the years I’ve tried switching to Linux and it definitely was less user friendly. I think Mint has made huge strides and hopefully will be able to take over.
Linux isn’t an upward curve, either. It mostly is, but those krackle-pops have to put a dent in the curve.
Vista wasn’t that bad. The dodgy selling it on computers that couldn’t handle it was an issue (much like they still do with selling laptops with only 32gb storage).
I still think it was one of the nicest looking - black taskbar with the start button sticking up, sidebar widgets, aero glass etc
It was never stable for me. I remember I had a laptop that would always refuse to shut down because “shutdown.exe” was running
Brutal
I remember the hardware situation being very fucked, due to driver authors not updating their shit in time and people trying to get their older stuff working which worked fine under XP, but was incompatible with Vista’s new driver model. It took a couple years until the release of 7 for most of those issues to get ironed out.
Win 10 was definitely an improvement over 8. I’d even argue that 10 as it started out was the best since xp. Of course now 10 has been fully enshitified but it used to be good.
I would agree that 10 was very good, but i could say similar things about windows 11 which in many ways performs better then 10.
And yet its shortly after upgrading to 11 that i switched to linux to never look back.
I think part of the logic in this meme is that it doesn’t matter how good the basic functions of the operating system are but what does is the design philosophy of the company. Loyalty in other systems decreased while Loyalty in windows gained.
Microsoft force feeding edge, onedrive, burrying the local account option till after the install with Microsoft account.
Randomly finding an update put a second weather widget on my taskbar that shows a different weather then the one in start. Taskbar icons that cant be closed, only hidden.
These things don’t affect the OS functionality in a big deal but its like i was in an abusive relationship that i finally got out of. No matter how much sweet talking and promises to do better i am not going back.
Relatively speaking yes, absolutely speaking, Windows bad
The colouring is shit, MacOS turns red at its peak. So, was it good or bad at that moment?
So good, it’s bad
10 and 11 are waaaaaaaay better than 8. But meme is meme.
Maybe out of the box, but with classicshell 8 was better
my dad genuinely preferred Windows 8 with Classic Shell over Windows 7.
The software I run a 8 figure business with only works in windows and macs. Not a specific title but the software for an entire industry. Linux is nice but still a novelty in my world.
Same. Until Linux is supported by scada systems it will only be a service, non-hmi OS, in my world.
What software is that? Is it something with a really heavy desktop client by nature (e.g CAD, video editing), or could it instead have a browser-based frontend?
Yes, CAD/CAM stuff like Catia, SW, mastercam, etc. It will take a lot of market share improvements to convince the developers to bother with a port. I’m no M$ fanboy, just no real production alternative.
I reckon they might be using a lot of Windows specific libraries, making any porting a real pain in the ass. And when you’re in that space, unfortunately people just have to choose the OS that goes with their applications, not the other way around.
It’s literally easier to start an entirely new CAD/CAM project and make that cross-platform. Unfortunately, that’s a 7 or 8 figure proposition to get started as well (probably 8 for a polished product that can pull proper market share).
I really wish SW ran on Linux. That would get me to switch over entirely.
you can run sw 2022 and 2023 in some distros. https://github.com/cryinkfly/SOLIDWORKS-for-Linux
doesn’t work in mint tho, i tried.
Windows has commited a sin()
Why? Just cos.
That’s not completely true, in Linux there are many points where old software sucks and new software isn’t ready for mass adoption. Like when everyone knew x11 was deprecated but nothing supported Wayland (to this day major WMs like cinnamon and xfce still haven’t switched over and most small wms never will). It gets better over time but there are dips in quality and Linux devs do sometimes make mistakes.
True, Linux is both the best and the worst at the same time.
The Base OS is great, but the apps are mostly terrible, with a few notable exceptions.
What happened to Mac os
Yeah, I’d say it’s the
bestleast horrible it’s ever beenApple sold out to OpenAI.
Win 10 wasn’t too bad
Then, why it has ads on start menu?
Never had any ads in 10 or 11
Nor did I. Considering it was an upgrade from Win 8 as well.
I think it might be American thing.
Yep, I configure it with English UK as the windows display language then adjust my settings based on my real needs.
And half of the settings moved from old control panel to a new crappy UI settings. At least commit and move all of them.
I never find what I am looking for in there, without opening and closing a bunch of windows. I swear they regularly move location of some settings. Search function is pretty bad too.
Oh they want to, but i bet that shit’s so intertwined that removing old audio menu will make your display output stop working.
If you dunno how to switch that off in 3 clicks you should probably stay away from computers mate lol
the ads in a paid os shouldn’t be a thing to begin with.
Agreed, but to say an operating system is so much worse because 3 clicks when comparing overall functionality seems highly exaggerated. There is a reason most companies went from 7 to 10 and skipped 8. They are also going to 11. You could argue that enterprise OS’s are separate though, but really they are very similar, and the reason windows does so well in companies is because most users have it at home. If most users go to something else at home, (or simply stop using home computers with the switch to phones, tablets) then enterprise will change and slowly feed the prominent OS for work back to home use. It’s a catch 22. If the standard user has to use something 40 hours a week at work, when they come home that is what they will be used to. Also what their kids will become used to. But companies don’t like to change what people are used to, as it slows production, and costs a lot more in training.
Yup, reasonable points.
But, it is 3 clicks for now, but it might not even be an option later on. Yea yea, doomer and tinfoilhats. :)
Yeah, definitely better than 8.
This is what I hear when Nazi apologists talk about Hitler
time just startend standing still for Windows after 10
Win10 was the last good version of Windows.
i was joking 'Bout the graph, but youre also wrong. Windows XP Was the last good, or 7 maybe.
What’s so bad about win 11 as an OS? For me it’s the most stable windows. Of course the MS crap they want you to include is bs, but that’s not really the OS
Rule of thumb: If it’s included with an install where you’re clicking through the defaults, to the average user the distinction doesn’t matter, it’s part of the OS
It’s part of the OS? All of the telemetry, ads, and strange news thingy is a standard part of the OS - if you try to remove it, it’ll just get back with any updates.
So it is really the OS
it’s the same way ubuntu bad now, forcing snaps
