• Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I moved to Linux entirely because of how shit Windows is, but I do not, in general, get higher fps. It’s very case-by-case, but in general, my performance seems to be ever so slightly worse.

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      It tends to be AMD GPUs that have the greatest differences in favour of Linux (except for ray tracing but that is improving in recent driver releases).

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      Yeah. Generally Indie games run better while AA do not.

      Then again there is the whole overhead with wine and game companies benchmark windows exclusively while optimizing currently.

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      In a well-optimized case, Linux will consume fewer resources and is more effective at task prioritization, so it will be better. If Windows outperforms Linux, it is due to the game optimizing around Windows. Granted, across the entire suite of games, the two tend to cancel each other out rather equally.

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      In my experience, windows made gaming almost impossible. Stuttering and crashes and sometimes even ARTIFACTS were a constant. But Linux just works OOTB

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      I probably hate Microsoft roughly as much as most people here but in a lot of ways Windows is way more polished than Linux. The second you try something “unconventional” in Linux the shit is going to hit the fan. Fractional scale DPI - half the apps crap their pants. On screen keyboard - and don’t get me started with OSK over Firefox in kiosk mode (for example in touch screen settings). Also try to make a custom shortcut on your gnome desktop to run some application with some arguments without writing config files in random directories you have to Google and reloading some configs via a terminal.

      Microsoft really went downhill fast and certainly adds a lot of crap to windows lately, but sadly in the Linux world we don’t have 1-3 well polished distros, we have hundreds of them. All good at one or two things, but suck at everything else. There a so many options the choice alone is probably the biggest reason everyday people will not switch to Linux if there device doesn’t already come with Linux. Even people thinking about switching end up with analysis paralysis because everybody tells them stuff like, try it - if you don’t like it try something else. As if they have nothing better to do than trying Linux distros all day long.

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        This is exactly the type of shit I’ve been trying to explain to the Linux fanboys for years and all of them dismiss outright.

        Until simple shit like this is easy for the average person, Linux will never replace Windows as a default OS option for regular users. 99% of people are scared of config files and the terminal, and they’re still just too commonly needed in every distro.

        A LOT of work has been done to minimize it, but there’s always still basic functionality that just isn’t in the GUI. That’s not an issue for most of us here… But it is for most people. Fediverse users are a small minority.

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          You would have to run OpenSUSE tumbleweed to get the GUI equivalent of windows configuration.

          Yast has a GUI app for everything from Samba setup to Bootloader config.

          The trouble is: initially there is a learning curve to SUSE that is different than something like Mint

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          What do you use the terminal and config files for? I mainly use bazzite now but after a fresh install the most I do is login to steam and change some settings in Firefox. I copy paste my directory settings for imports on darktable to point to my nas but thats probably the most advanced thing I do

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      Hot and miss for sure. I have had games run better than on windows, and also worse. But there are too many other pros to running Linux to make me happy I’m not running windows.

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      I experience no worse fps than I would on windows. I have star citizen running better on linux then I did on the same windows machine. To each their own I guess.

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        I just reinstalled COD WWII recently and it really does run like shit. Framerate problems that need restarts, poor performance, the sound cuts off if it’s through HDMI for some reason.

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      Most things seem to run fine for me on linux, but sadly Elden Ring runs a good 10 fps slower than it ran on windows for me.

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    Tossed SteamOS onto my Legion Go last week, and the performance is sooooo much better. I was beginning to wonder why they used such a sharp resolution screen on it because Windows wouldn’t run games very well at the max resolution.

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    Title implies a big move, pretty far from the steady growth their sources say and that they explain throughout the article. But I guess a more honest title like “Linux among gamers sees new record after continuous steady growth” isn’t as click-worthy.

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    I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

    IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience. Does anyone use Windows because they like it?

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      I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

      That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:

      40%     Server Products and Cloud Services
      22%     Office Products and Cloud Services
      10%     Windows
       9%     Gaming
       7%     LinkedIn
       5%     Search and News Advertising
      

      IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.

      It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.

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        Also: even if they are not directly connected, the fact that one monopoly crumbles might result in the next one falling apart too. Someone who successfully got out of Windows might try to ditch their MS365 subscription too.

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          I don’t think companies are going to ditch their MS365 subscriptions. That would mean getting rid of Outlook and Teams, and that ain’t happening anytime soon.

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            I don’t think companies are going to ditch their MS365 subscriptions. That would mean getting rid of Outlook and Teams, and that ain’t happening anytime soon.

            Can someone more technical than me tell me why Outlook is so awesome for work? I use Outlook 365 for work, and the search function is ass. G-suite worked better on the front end, so I’m wondering about the back end.

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              It’s just a recognizable brand, and it’s often bundled with the other things businesses are already buying in the Office suite. (think: Teams, Word/PowerPoint/Excel/etc)

              The interesting bit is that these businesses are almost always using their custom domain for emails… which means if they wanted to switch from Outlook to another provider, and they linked their domain to that new provider, there is then zero switching cost outside the time to sign everyone up for accounts on the new provider and transfer old emails over, since all the emails directed at their domain would just go to the new provider.

              Emails also come in standardized formats that can be downloaded and transferred to a new provider, too.

              I genuinely have faith that businesses will begin switching away as the cost becomes harder and harder to justify.

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                there is then zero switching cost outside

                Tell me again how you’ve never supported an email service migration. I’m delighted that you haven’t, but it’s obvious.

                Also, I love when people pull a “draw the rest of the owl” with tech they’ve never been up in the guts of.

                Emails also come in standardized formats that can be downloaded and transferred to a new provider, too.

                Oh, you sweet sweet thing. I remember when I believed that technical specs were reliable and things were interoperable because documentation said they were.

                I can still see their tears.


                Maybe it truly is that easy with other providers to switch from one to another, but Outlook, and especially the Exchange backend underneath (both the effectively discontinued self-hosted server version and the Azure-managed Exchange Online) are a special kind of jank.

                There isn’t a special layer or kind of hell for whoever designed it. There isn’t even a specific hell in and of itself.

                Whatever exists after death for the designers of Outlook and Exchange is something so much worse than hell that it’s categorically different from anything able to be conceptualized by humans. We don’t have words to even begin to describe the gulf between comprehendable human thought and what awaits for them.

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            In the hypothetical situation Windows desktop monopoly is over, there’ll be at least some internal pressure to do so. Cost of switch (in money = work hours) might be a pain, but if they believe they’ll profit more by using some competitor that is not Windows exclusive, they’ll eventually do it.

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        Azure has support for Linux servers. They’ve even made an effort to port Dotnet to Linux. A majority of their cloud infrastructure is Linux it seems.

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          I had to dig through their annual report to find it:

          Server products and cloud services revenue growth

          Revenue from Server products and cloud services, including Azure and other cloud services; SQL Server, Windows Server, Visual Studio, System Center, and related Client Access Licenses (“CALs”); and Nuance and GitHub

          So it includes Windows Server, but it’s way more than just that.

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        XP was alright, but I’m mostly just nostalgic for the aesthetic of 95/98/2000

        Vista was the reason I switched to Linux

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          This was the same era when I tried to switch, due to the shittiness of Vista. I wanna say it was Mandrake Linux was what I was trying to use, but I couldn’t get it running correctly on my hardware.

          Came back some time later and discovered Mepis Linux. After that, I never went back.

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      I wouldn’t be surprised. Desktop revenue has been a pretty small slice for their revenue long before AI was a thing. Their main drivers were server products and O365, and now AI and Azure are also pushing a lot of revenue.

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        Direct revenue through Windows sales might be low, but I suspect Windows is still important to drive people to buy One Cloud, office 365 etc subscriptions. So when people move away to Linux, the other services should become less profitable with some time delay

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      I don’t think the number is indicative of quality. The office suite is their bread and butter (alongside Azure) and Teams is a steaming pile of shit.

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      none of the other popular desktop operating systems cost money at all. I don’t know why Microsoft is doing half of the things that it does

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    So “the year of the Linux desktop” is just around the corner? Again?

    … and all it took was to wait for windows to become unbearably shitty?