So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?


It’s one thing for the US to lose an offensive war, it’s another thing entirely for anybody else to think of dicking with them on their home turf
The answer, then, is a homegrown guerilla force, but the ones most likely to do that are already in power
I don’t think this will work either. If Trump pulls the insurrection card, he’ll just use drone strikes to obliterate any homegrown force. Sure, US citizens are armed up. But the arms that citizens have are meaningless when it comes to things like high altitude drones.
I think this is what people outside of the US forget when they call for 2A people to rise up. The US government has made the second amendment relatively meaningless in regards to it’s original purpose. Kind of hard to fight back when you get vaporized by a dot in the sky.
I personally think hurting the upper class in the wallet is the only way anything in the US will change. Could be done through a general strike by US citizens (although at the time being I think this is unlikely to happen, given how little money people in the working class have. they have to be able to eat and be sheltered to weather the strike, after all), or by other countries sanctioning and messing with bonds.
Edit: if you originally meant homegrown as in US citizens. if not, carry on.
That was indeed what I meant, though I was being a bit facetious about the whole thing
You really think the US military would start killing their own on the command from the president?
From what my buddy in the US Army tells me there’s a lot of political maneouvering going on that basically circumvents a lot of shit that Elon’s stupid ass tried to force on them.
Let’s just say that I wouldn’t be surprised if they could find some gravy seals willing to kill citizens.