So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

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    Follow the money.

    See all those billionaire tech cunts propping him up? Sanction them. Ban their software. Block their psy-op social media websites.

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    So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something?

    Frankly? Nothing. Nothing happened after Iraq, nothing happened after Afghanistan, nothing will happen after Venezuela.

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    My best guess is mass riots/civil war. The main reasons why it’s not happening yet are because Trump still has a good number of supporters and because Americans are - rightfully - afraid of their police (or soldiers) killing them.

    Trump is steadily losing his supporters every week, and the number of people at risk of dying due to lack of food or healthcare is increasing. If your life is at serious risk anyway, might as well get a shot at a revolution. And the more people willing to do it with you, the better the chances.

    However, I’m not sure how realistic this scenario is. I’m concerned that a change of government for a slightly better one may be enough for most Americans to calm down. After all, they’re very much used to being abused by their elites, whether they realize it or not.

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    Russia invaded Ukraine and was immediately under many sanctions. I don’t get why the world doesn’t treat the US the same way. Aside from greed.

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    WW3 fought in mainland USA…

    The usa has only ever benefitted from war… once they taste it at home and have cities to rebuild, they may drop the deadly combination of chicken hawk and apathy that seems to be their take on war

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    Do to the US what the US has been doing for 150 years.

    Invest heavily in local anti government revolutionist organizations and support their efforts covertly. You know, like Russia and China have already been doing for 30 years.

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    The US has directly captured or supported the overthrow of multiple heads of state. Nobody has ever done anything and they won’t now.

    Too many Americans are actually supportive of this so there won’t be any major domestic repercussions. Maybe some hearings in Congress.

    America is not going to fix itself. The corruption is built in. For the last 50 years (roughly), the system has been changed to make the people dumb and complacent; to make the President a puppet king who answers to the wealthy.

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    The EU, China and other major trading partners (many of which are EU afilliates like Japan) could cripple the US overnight by dumping american bonds and finding new trading partners. This is already happening though in a very slow way designed to minimize damage.

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    It’s a slow, ongoing process. The more the US tries to use force to make countries fall in line, the more people look to alternatives. Countries that used to be unaligned are looking at China and countries that used to be aligned with the US are looking at playing the field.

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    Regimes like this only respond to incredible violence. They believe rules and laws and norms that don’t serve them don’t apply to them. All the systems designed to resist this bullshit are ignored completely because they just opt out of society’s rules while rewriting them on the fly to serve exclusively them.

    This ends a couple of different ways. One is they encounter a bigger bully. They are all loyalists that cannot strategize, cooperate, and execute a plan. It’s yes men all the way down. So if someone powerful enough takes a swing, they don’t have the ability to respond. In this case, Canada invading the US with resources supplied by other nations concerned they are next makes the most sense. This administration wouldn’t be able to respond with anything other than tantrums online and on TV.

    The other way this ends is letting them do whatever they want. They need an enemy to survive. Eventually they run out of enemies and have to invent new ones. We are already at that point. They divide the population up into good guys and bad guys and eliminate the bad guys, then they do it again, getting smaller and smaller each time until there’s no longer enough people left to sustain them. This is not the way we want as most of the US would have to die off for it to work but it is sort of the default mode of extinction for fascism.

    The only method that works with fascists and results in the fewest casualties is incredible overwhelming violence. It’s been done before and worked because it was the best option, even if it’s still a terrible one.

    But here’s where the propaganda machine protects the fascists. People are already ready for the incredible violence. The country is on a cliff edge right now. But we are so divided and dependent on TV and social media that we are told to attack eachother instead of the fascists. Most of us don’t want to do that.

    So we wait for extinction.

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    STOP REPRODUCING

    There’s a reason that leadershit is absolutely pissing their pants about declining fertility rates.

    The funny thing is that they’ll try to shame us, bribe us, or even force us (e.g. via attacks on abortion rights and contraceptives). But they refuse to meaningfully address the underlying reasons why people are increasingly saying “no thanks, I’m good” regarding becoming parents.