That’s a paraphrase of a famous Bertrand Russell quote. The original is as follows; “The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.”
There’s also the William Butler Yeats corollary; “The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.”
The Bible says something about the earth and how it is good and the filament of the sky and something. The Bible that is, at least that’s what I read on the internet. Many fine people on the internet, the best people, but not me, I haven’t said it, but the best people probably. The best people say the earth may be - and I’m not saying it is but they are saying it - they say that the earth may be flat and that doesn’t take much text to cover I have heard.
If you squint a little, the 7 days of creation in Genesis are relativistic-ish. 1 day to separate light from darkness (photons at 1 microsecond after Big Bang), another to create the sky (opaque universe at 370k years), another to form dry land and create life (earth formed, 9.3 billion years, life at ~0.2by later), etc etc. Anyone with a physics degree able to say what fraction of light speed god must have been travelling to make this happen such that only days passed for them between these events?
They are literal days.
Our God is King of leading by example.
Also, man was made from the dust of the earth. It was fitting that earth be created before man (also very important for prideful man).
As He did, so we must do.
It is repeated constantly that we have 6 days to work, the 7th to be set apart.
Why?
You stated “this has been always true” to the statement that we have understanding that things are really complex and difficult to figure out. The answer to you was an example that there were times where we did not have such understanding.
Material things are way below what God planned for man.
Man was meant to be like God (NB God is not material) (in a good way).
The Bible is not meant to be a physics textbook.
Nevertheless, God owns everything. So things were talked about here and there…
The Bible also isn’t meant to be real. It’s a compendium of stories all put into one book, with tons of different writers. It’s akin to The Odyssey and shouldn’t be taken literally. Zeus didn’t come to Earth as a golden shower to impregnate Danae, and Jesus didn’t come back from the dead. They’re just fables.
In the Old Testament, you’ll always see genealogies of key person being discussed to Adam (the first man).
In the New Testament, the genealogy is from Jesus Christ to Adam (in Matthew, Mark, Luke, Acts and by Paul I think).
Zeus and Diana (profligate) were humans. But pagans deify their rulers.
Let me make a second post…
The Bible is historical too:
When Moyses drowned the Egyptians (Old Testament which Jews held and kept sacred)
When Jesus, Mary & Joseph took refuge in Egypt (New Testament which Christians hold and keep sacred)
In the first example, we learn that Egyptians used chariots (even far back in the time of Moyses).
‘Satan’ is part of your name, so I guess you know who he was, and who he is now.
‘Satan’ is opposed to the coming of Christ (the reason for all those genealogies).
‘Satan’ would do everything to make people forget why Christ came.
‘Satan’ would make Christmas (we all have our birthdays) to seize. ‘Satan’ wants people to believe that Christ is like Zeus and Mary like Diana (profligate).
If your point was that religions have oversimplified complex science to the point that people thought they fully grasped it, then I agree with you. Otherwise I have no idea what you are trying to say.
This has always been true.
To quote someone a lot wiser than myself:
That’s a paraphrase of a famous Bertrand Russell quote. The original is as follows; “The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.”
There’s also the William Butler Yeats corollary; “The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.”
No, before the scientific method was invented, the religious consensus was that “All is known”.
“It’s all written down in this here book.”
No it hasn’t. Many religions and spiritual texts covered all this stuff in just a couple of pages.
Please do show the spiritual texts which cover general and specific relativity.
The Bible says something about the earth and how it is good and the filament of the sky and something. The Bible that is, at least that’s what I read on the internet. Many fine people on the internet, the best people, but not me, I haven’t said it, but the best people probably. The best people say the earth may be - and I’m not saying it is but they are saying it - they say that the earth may be flat and that doesn’t take much text to cover I have heard.
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If you squint a little, the 7 days of creation in Genesis are relativistic-ish. 1 day to separate light from darkness (photons at 1 microsecond after Big Bang), another to create the sky (opaque universe at 370k years), another to form dry land and create life (earth formed, 9.3 billion years, life at ~0.2by later), etc etc. Anyone with a physics degree able to say what fraction of light speed god must have been travelling to make this happen such that only days passed for them between these events?
They are literal days.
Our God is King of leading by example.
Also, man was made from the dust of the earth. It was fitting that earth be created before man (also very important for prideful man).
As He did, so we must do.
It is repeated constantly that we have 6 days to work, the 7th to be set apart.
Why?
You are missing the point. The creation myths were considered complete. Nothing left to be known.
Well yes, people who believe things that aren’t true won’t admit that they don’t know anything. I’m not sure why that’s relevant though.
I think their actual point was that incomplete explanations are nonetheless explanations. Still wrong though.
You stated “this has been always true” to the statement that we have understanding that things are really complex and difficult to figure out. The answer to you was an example that there were times where we did not have such understanding.
Material things are way below what God planned for man.
Man was meant to be like God (NB God is not material) (in a good way).
The Bible is not meant to be a physics textbook.
Nevertheless, God owns everything. So things were talked about here and there…
The Bible also isn’t meant to be real. It’s a compendium of stories all put into one book, with tons of different writers. It’s akin to The Odyssey and shouldn’t be taken literally. Zeus didn’t come to Earth as a golden shower to impregnate Danae, and Jesus didn’t come back from the dead. They’re just fables.
Oh the Bible is definitely meant to explain things. It explains things through a bunch of different world views from different times.
In the Old Testament, you’ll always see genealogies of key person being discussed to Adam (the first man).
In the New Testament, the genealogy is from Jesus Christ to Adam (in Matthew, Mark, Luke, Acts and by Paul I think).
Zeus and Diana (profligate) were humans. But pagans deify their rulers.
Let me make a second post…
The Bible is historical too:
When Moyses drowned the Egyptians (Old Testament which Jews held and kept sacred)
When Jesus, Mary & Joseph took refuge in Egypt (New Testament which Christians hold and keep sacred)
In the first example, we learn that Egyptians used chariots (even far back in the time of Moyses).
‘Satan’ is part of your name, so I guess you know who he was, and who he is now.
‘Satan’ is opposed to the coming of Christ (the reason for all those genealogies).
‘Satan’ would do everything to make people forget why Christ came.
‘Satan’ would make Christmas (we all have our birthdays) to seize.
‘Satan’ wants people to believe that Christ is like Zeus and Mary like Diana (profligate).
But you should know that Satan is a fallen angel.
Deal if you show me the scientific texts that covered these in 500bc since you think we’ve always know how complex this is.
I never made that claim, so how can I show you something I never claimed in the first place?
If your point was that religions have oversimplified complex science to the point that people thought they fully grasped it, then I agree with you. Otherwise I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Got 'em lol