• saturn_888@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    Therapy really doesnt help. For some people it can be amazing, but it just won’t work for everyone and that is ok.

    For me personally, I’m just too different from how the therapists wanted me to be (I know this sounds weird, I will explain). They (plural, I’ve seen multiple) would try to convince me I can and do experience things that “are normal human feelings that everyone experiences”, and didn’t seem to be able to understand the things I was telling them I actually experience. They could not understand that I simply do not think in any conventional manner and do not have the same thoughts other people do. And I am not saying “Oh I think differently I am such an intellectual, infinitely superior to mere mortals”. There are a lot of things my brain cannot do at all, I will never be able to drive a car, and can’t follow cooking recipies very well. They all had the same mindset, that somewhere in my brain the things they were looking for existed. I am lucky that I never had any serious mental health issues, I only wanted to go to ensure that I wouldn’t have an issue in the future, since I am more likely to experience them, due to being significantly disabled

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
    1·
    6 days ago

    Aah yes, therapy, the instant cure-all for brain issues. How foolish of me to think that therapy was only talking through your problems and getting professional advice on how to cope better with the crushing reality that we’re all just wage slave servants of the 1%.

    What a fool I was.

  • Galactose@sopuli.xyz
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    6 days ago

    Therapy ? You mean that do-nothing treatment, where you get your money stolen & get prescribed drugs that do the ACTUAL job ??

    Also you get asked questions to which the answers are mostly “I don’t know” & in a lot of cases just get gaslit. Good one people.

  • Sergio@piefed.socialEnglish
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    7 days ago

    Oh wow, I’ve been meaning to look up the comment I wrote last time this was posted. And here’s a great opportunity to do so! Time to make yet another attempt…

    All right, either:

    • try to decide what kind of therapist is needed (difficult)
    • figure out what kind of therapy/therapists are covered by insurance (time-consuming and stressful, sometimes impossible)
    • provide a bunch of private information (time-consuming, difficult, and stressful)
    • look through a list of relevant therapists nearby (usually easy)
    • try to identify one that you might relate to or at least be able to deal with (very difficult, sometimes impossible)
    • call them up one at a time to see if they’re really accepting new patients (time-consuming and stressful)
    • try to find a regular time that works in your schedule for the new therapist and for other obligations (difficult)
    • again provide a bunch of private information (time-consuming, difficult, and stressful)
    • go meet with the therapist. try to get along with them because if you don’t it’s your fault and you have to start all over (difficulty varies, sometimes impossible)
    • do all this while dealing with whatever problem you need therapy for (difficulty varies, sometimes impossible)

    Or:

    I know the wording’s a meme, but the hell with whoever made the original post.

    • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
      1·
      7 days ago

      Seriously. I looked into it awhile back for something. My insurance’s page was complete garbage. Their provider network is completely useless. Every therapist on there either isn’t actually taking new patients, doesn’t accept the insurance, or links to a dead site.

      You should be able to sue your insurance company $100 for every ghost listing they have in their provider networks.

    • Donkter@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      Ironically you need therapy in order to go to therapy. If someone has issues with overthinking, anxiety about interacting with people, stress/anger issues, depression that makes them unmotivated of course it’s going to be hard to go to a stranger they’re expected to be their most vulnerable with.

  • bizarroland@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 days ago

    “Just get therapy? Why don’t I strap on my therapy helmet, and squeeze down into a therapy cannon, AND FIRE OFF INTO THERAPYLAND, WHERE THERAPISTS GROW ON THERAPIES?!!!”

      • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        7 days ago

        Got it for free, it comes down to “you don’t look depressed”.

        No shit, I thought you would help!

        So they told her I look depressed. I was not depressed, just literaly grieving.

        Got some perspective on things, was still on my own.

        Guess what: you need an actual neurologist to help treat your brain disorder, not someone to tell you the obvious.

  • Donn@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    7 days ago

    extra humorous if alchemy is only taken as a literal proto-chemistry, disregarding its symbolic roots as proto-psychology (i.e.a type of self-work therapy)

      • Donn@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        7 days ago

        not sure if joking as a bit. do you not think it can be both?

        • 1ostA5tro6yne@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          6 days ago

          that idea came from carl jung, and was largely informed by applying ideas from chinese texts on internal alchemy translated by hellmut wilhelm, during a time when it was all the rage for rich western fucks to go appropriating and syncretizing a bunch of shit none of them understood, often toward the end of servicing a proto-eugenicist-at-best narrative about atlantis or hyperborea or whatever the fuck.

          so like my number one is that occultism of that era and the modern pop occultism that derives from it (9/10ths of your “witchy” friend’s shelf full of pristine lewellyn titles) tends to be gravely mis- or malinformed at best. neo-hermeticism in general tends to be rife with this type of stuff, because theosophists and thelemites alike had a gigantic orientalism-boner for egypt.

          number two is that chinese internal alchemy and chinese chemical alchemy (for lack of better terms, i’m atrocious with chinese) were/are two entirely separate disciplines, the former of which is still practiced and both of which are documented enough that it is clear they are not metaphors for each other. jung was essentially comparing apples to oranges in order to understand schnauzers.

          number three is that the number one bit of advice about studying taoism that i get from chinese speakers is to avoid the wilhelm translation of basically anything, so like even the already unrelated ideas that jung was injecting where they don’t belong are likely innaccurate to the actual tradition.

          number four is that i’m currently studying medieval and reniassance magic and the notion of alchemy as a metaphor for self-therapy seems pretty foreign, and the notion of transmuting metals is not only clearly very literal but a consequence of the prevailing model of physics of the day.

          number five is that “late-victorian-to-early-modern-era scientist thought [insert unrelated thing] was an ancient metaphor for the field he pioneered” is such obvious bullshit and jung’s tenuous association says much more about jung and the prevailing cultural perception of ancient peoples in jung’s time than it does about either alchemy or psychology imo.

          tl;dr medieval alchemists were clearly proto-chemists, alchemy as a metaphor for spiritual or psychological development is a novel creation of one or more coked out victorians because it made them horny to connect their pet ideas to the wisdom of the ancients or whatever.

          • Donn@slrpnk.netEnglish
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            13 hours ago

            there’s plenty of art that predates jung or hellmut, by one or more centuries, depicting alchemy as a spiritual process (opus magnum). much of its depiction is influenced by abrahamic religions (but not exclusively). i think its safe to assume colonialism played the same problematic role in both of our understandings around its origin. nonetheless, the framework seems to have existed long before the victorian era by my understanding, though i’d agree there are old and new interpretations alike that uphold purity culture/white supremacy.

            i treat the metaphorical alchemy much like 12-tet music as we know it: the church propagated it, but influences internal and external to the church can still grow into something else (e.g. music that would protest/defy/have nothing to do with the church). alchemy as an understanding of death/rebirth cycles through heat/pressure/blood/sweat/tears is sensible to anyone observing the natural world (e.g. pagans and ancient greeks saw this), and (for example) the notion of “burning away impurities” in alchemy doesn’t have to be intertwined with white supremacy purification but instead transforming perpetually. finding old information can be difficult/frustrating when so much of it gets sucked into a new-age bs vortex.

            with all of that said, i’m really interested in what you said regarding eastern texts that circumvent aforementioned problematic translation/appropriation about internal and chemical alchemy alike, and medieval and renaissance magic, and would love to learn more if you have any links/book titles to share!