Unwittingly had ‘sex’ with a child, realised it was a child, had ‘sex’ a second time.
And wrote a song about it. And then wrote it into his autobiography.
How this man apparently skated through the #MeToo movement unscathed is truly baffling.
sounds like he should have been taken out into a field and shot.
I was in that scene in the 80s. Been thinking about it a lot lately, it’s hard.
Bon Jovi’s crew had a designated chaperone, and I thought that was weird at the time. It was cool, though. I do appreciate it now. They wouldn’t allow the drugs or the sex – some roadie crews had that, and others didn’t, there was none of that (eta: the really bad stuff) in my circles, but I heard about the bad ones. I was like 15 at that time.
Had sex had sex one more time.
This is why you never get a tattoo of a band or tv show or any kind of IP.
Stadium Arcadian, I believe, is one of the best albums of all time and this just tainted all their music.
Why would he write about this so nonchalantly… Christ.
Anthony Kiedis is the reason I stopped listening to the Ref Hot Chili Peppers… and they were my favorite band. Even if he hadn’t had been a child molester as shown by his autobiography, he’d still be one of those creepy 60 years old people who only date girls in their 20s.
the hardest part of getting older, is finding out how many people I listened to in the 80s were just straight up child predators with good publicity.
It makes me sick… it makes me feel a lot more things, but I doubt the mods would like me to express such thoughts.
Although he’s done lots of terrible things… His music is among the worst.
What the fuck
A lot of the older rockstars from back in the “everyone was doing it” days seem to not have been affected by MeToo. It’s bizarre, to say the least.
I agree with this statement. Having worked in the music industry back then, i see how it happened. Does not make it right, but minors were lying about their ages, using fake IDs and the like. That coupled with a lot of booze and drugs… I am guessing it may not be talked about because no one can actually remember anything. (slight sarcasm)…
Well a lot of the obsession over the exact age of 18 is a modern concept. We think of that as a medieval concept, but nope. You just need to go back to the 70s and 80s.
It isn’t that bizarre when you consider how poorly enforced these laws are even in the modern day.
Older, wealthier men pursuing sex with teenagers is a tale as old as time. What’s “bizarre” is MeToo, a sporadic and short-lived effort at changing cultural norms spanning centuries, that was snuffed out by the same cadre of older richer men who feel it is their privilege to fuck kids.
We live in a patriarchal plutocracy with a puritanical veneer. Not only was “everyone doing it” but everyone is still doing it. Sean Combs was just convicted of sex trafficking a few months ago and has been shopping around the possibility of a Presidential Pardon. Former Congressman and aspiring AG Matt Gaetz was paying for the dental work of a 17-year-old in exchange for sex and has gone unprosecuted. Bill Gates and Elon Musk remain at large.
The story Kiedis tells is downright wholesome by comparison to the kind of abuse that occurs for the benefit of American sex-tourists in Dominican Republic and Thailand. And go check out the long and sordid history of human trafficking out of Ukraine. The Russia invasion has supercharged exploitation of refugees from the region.
Didn’t Jagger or Tyler like adopt a 13 year old in Eastern Europe
It was Steven tyler. I get him confused with Mick Jagger too because they’re both scrawny wrinkly weird-looking men who open their mouths way too wide.
But Steven Tyler was the one who persuaded the parents of a 13-year-old girl to sign over adoptive custody of her to him, so she became his fuck toy and she eventually got pregnant and Steven went on tour and locked her in an apartment and abandoned her and had the apartment set on fire to try to get rid of the whole problem but she survived and finally started talking about the whole ordeal during the metoo movement.
And around the time she started talking, he conveniently attempted to reinvent himself as a country singer, trying in vain to shift his renewed publicity into a different direction.
We can’t just cancel entire genres of music
You cancel the people
What are you suggesting then?
I find that this little program called Jellyfin really helps me separate the art from the artist, lol.
Not that I have any RHCP in my playlist or even on the server.
Does the book say how old Kiedis was at the time?
Edit: Seems like important context
Kiedis was 20 when the band was formed, so if they were touring when this story took place he must have been well into his 20’s, banging a junior high school girl.
Found it
Kiedis acknowledges in his autobiography Scar Tissue that he had sexual relations with a 14-year-old girl when he was 23, before and after learning of her age, in the 1980s
Also:
Kiedis had a relationship with actress Ione Skye in the late 1980s starting when he was 24 and she was 16. Skye split with Kiedis after a few years and eventually married Ad Rock of the Beastie Boys in 1992. Skye, who was 18 in 1989, was supposed to appear as the cover model on the Chili Peppers’ 1989 album, Mother’s Milk; however, the label felt she looked “a little young” she said so they used a different model.
In Skye’s 2025 memoir Say Everything, Skye says that when she was 17 years old, Kiedis got her pregnant and that Kiedis paid for her abortion
And…
Lush singer/guitarist Miki Berenyi confirmed in several interviews that the second verse of their hit 1996 song “Ladykillers” was about Kiedis
“… but I did want to get her the hell back home right away. So we had sex one more time …”
😂
In for a penny…
If they went after every musician who banged an underage girl on a tour bus, you could put a pro rock band together in every penitentiary.
Then you could have a battle of the bands between rival prisons, which exposes a gambling ring among the guards and wardens, who are trying to rig the results, and in the distraction there’s a prison break, and they escape to freedom over snow covered mountains, led by a friendly singing nun with a guitar…
But I digress. I meant to say, everyone was doing it back then.
If they went after every musician who banged an underage girl on a tour bus, you could put a pro rock band together in every penitentiary.
I would settle for maybe getting every tenth musician and creating some kind of stigma against statutory rape.
But even that seems too much, in a country that wants to spend a trillion dollars bombing Venezuelan fishing boats and lynching legal migrants in concentration camp black sites.
I meant to say, everyone was doing it back then.
They still are. If anything, I’d put money down that its even more common and more industrialized today than it was 30 years ago.
Yes because I’m sure they’re totally not doing it now.,
Musicians are old news. It’s YouTubers now. They start their channel as kids, and ten years later they aren’t kids but their whole audience is. I think kid-fucking is coming back in a big way, sadly.
You’re hilarious if you think kid fucking is ever gone away.
Yeah man, you’ve got to be fucking kidding me. lol sorry.
It’s only good PR keeping most of these people out of the news for banging kids in the 70s and 80s.
But it’s only really been heavily frowned upon in the last 25 years or so. I never even heard the word paedophile until about 2000 or so, when Sarah Payne got raped and murdered. And I wasn’t the only one. The word was so new to people in the UK, that a paediatrician got attacked by mistake.
Way to excuse pedophilia, and when you say back then, it’s not the fucking middle ages where no laws existed against it.
No the dude is attracted to underage girls, she was 14, that is a kid. He fucked a kid and decided to do that again. And bare in mind “back then”, where make up was not promoted to kids, so they actually look like kids. Eat shit bro
Yeah, right, I’m defendimg pedophilia? I’m not MAGA.
The make-up thing is weird. Brooke Shields was VERY controversial in the late 70s for appearing sexualized TV commercials, wearing make-up, and tight clothes that were highlighted by camera work that luxuriated over her body, and even appearing naked on camera, when she was only about 12 or 13. It was a big subject of discussion.
I’m not the one who was sexualizing teens back in the 70s and 80s, I was just pointing out that at the time, EVERYBODY knew it was going on, including the cops in every city that every band ever stopped on tour, and NOBODY did anything about it, ever. They still don’t. You don’t think there are still young groupies sneaking backstage today?
Dude you are still doing it, he raped a girl, a 14 year is not old enough to consent, its rape.
Of course he did. I’m not disputing that, I’m just saying that it was so prevalent that literally EVERYBODY knew about that entire issue at the time, and generally chose to do next to nothing about it. Just objectively stating a fact, not endorsing the rock star lifestyle.
Half of anime sexualizes underage girls. Half of advertising too. Lots of cognitive dissonance in our culture. But nobody ever accused the angry masses of being logically consistent.
where make up was not promoted to kids
WTF, are you from the middle ages? Or, like, live under a rock? “Back then” was the late 80s or early 90s - a fourteen year old that ran away from home to bang a rock star was absolutely wearing make-up.
What? Children have been wearing makeup since the seventies, at least.
we had sex one more time
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I’m was a casual RHCP fan until that book came out, I own a couple albums.
Haven’t been able to listen to them since. It’s just lost its appeal when it’s now associated with that attitude in my brain.
I don’t get how people can ‘seperate the art from the artist’. I get that it’s potentially a valid attitude, but my brain just doesn’t work that way. Same with Jackson after Leaving Neverland.
It’s why I can never watch the Cosby show again.
I feel like the only way to ‘separate the art from the artist’ is to behead the artists leaving the art firmly in this world and the artist removed from it.
I think it depends on how much you revere the artist. I like Michael Jackson’s songs, but he’s only ever been a good singer/performer in my head, not someone I should admire and worship - so I can happily keep listening to his songs because it’s a distant one at best
Noam Chomsky though? I mean, seeing him on the Epstein files… that hurt. I’m not sure I can read his stuff anymore
TIL Noam Chomsky is in the Epstein files
Like what
No claims he did anything, but he’s definitely warm with Epstein in jail.
To be fair, he probably saw Epstein as someone like Hugh Hefner or Julian Assange – eccentric personalities, with powerful connections and a refined philosophical insight.
He might have seen Epstein as more like a political prisoner like Assange, held in prison on trumped up sex charges.
It’s just hard to trust his judgement on topics now, going forward. If he was blind to a close personal friend, then his political analyses aren’t as objective as they sound.
Chomsky will respond to anyone that emails him. Is chomsky like saying how cool human trafficking was in the files or something?
No, but he is pretty chummy and is more than happy to instigate an email chain than just reply to one.
Also Epstein was quite chummy with Chomsky’s wife too, so I’m guessing they all go way back.
Again, I think they just saw him as some kind of Hugh Hefner guy, who was maybe a bit eccentric with the sex stuff, but that it was all consensual stuff.
And his take on the Russian invasion of Ukraine is pretty shit.
His influence in modern leftism stops at Manufactured Consent anyway in my opinion
And his take on the Russian invasion of Ukraine is pretty shit.
Not read it, what did he say?
I recently read some of his interviews from a decade or so ago and in several of them he brought up the idea that the U.S. had lied to Gorbachev about not extending NATO eastward in exchange for letting Germany reunite, then had been trying to move east ever since. I’m guessing it’s related to this since I’ve heard this argument from Russia after it invaded Ukraine.
oh right, yeah I had read that - and do largely agree with the premise - but don’t buy the “self-defence” angle
IMHO “separate the art from the artist” only applies to criticism of art. Not to consuming the works especially in today’s world where artists get paid by the stream. Like saying you like the song “I believe I can fly” is separating the art from the artist. But if you listen to that song on Spotify you straight up give R Kelly and his beneficiaries, who have condoned his behavior for years, money. So at that point the artist isn’t separated anymore.
Oh that makes more sense. Appreciate the explanation.
Because neither party has any complaints?
About burning pedophiles alive…are you guys sure we shouldn’t do that?
In theory: yes. However, what happens when we inevitably burn the wrong person alive?
The problem is how it would work in practice.
Sigh Guess I can put away the gasoline for now.
If he admitted to this in a book, imagine the shit he’s done that he hasn’t come out yet. Ugh.
Ever since i saw that interview of them where they tried to grope and fuck that lady on the air, i was so disgusted that i would never listen to them again. Not that i really did in a long time, but that killed my last desire to care for them at all.
I’ve searched for a video of this but can’t find anything
I honestly couldn’t find the one i was looking for, but apparently i’m not the only one, according to some reddit post.
It was kind of like that, but i remember that at least one of the or all were topless and they all harassed the fuck out of her together
I will try to find it.
