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Ok, so … somehow it appears no one in this thread is yet aware of this:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/29/trump-venezuelan-airspace-military-00670743
President Donald Trump abruptly ordered the airspace closed above and around Venezuela on Saturday, further escalating tensions between the U.S. president and Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro, whom the White House accuses of working with narco-terrorist organizations to facilitate drug trafficking.
“To all Airlines, Pilots, Drug Dealers, and Human Traffickers, please consider THE AIRSPACE ABOVE AND SURROUNDING VENEZUELA TO BE CLOSED IN ITS ENTIRETY,” the president wrote on Truth Social Saturday morning.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115633041089714842
Uh, yeah, Trump effectively, unilaterally, just declared a Desert Shield/Storm style No Fly Zone.
… thats what you do before you begin a massive air campaign.
So, as of two weeks ago, the Gerald R Ford was near Venezuela…
But apparently, right now, its … sorta near the Pillars of Hercules?
https://www.cruisingearth.com/ship-tracker/united-states-navy/uss-gerald-r-ford/
Uh anyways yeah, looks like we’re gonna be doing a bit of involuntary regime change on Venezuela,
…
The Dollar, the PetroDollar, is currently imploding.
Japan is unwinding its decades long carry trade that had been greatly propping up the US financial system, China’s not buying any more US debt instruments, uh, our entire economy is a giant scam/bet on AI…
…uh, BlackRock is currently imploding, so that means the entire Shadow Banking system of private lending is also going to blow up…
… and maybe you missed the reveal a few weeks back that a huge chunk of our ‘foreign held debt’ is actually held by the Cayman Islands.
Which means its actually held by Wall Street traders, doing a basis trade, which means they bought that debt on something like 100:1 leverage.
Yeah our finances and thus entire monetary system are looking very bad right now.
Did I mention how treasury yields keep popping outside of the Fed’s control channel?
AKA: The Fed is losing the ability to actually set interest rates?
So, with that in mind:
If… you can secure all or a large chunk of VZ’s oil…
… well, maybe… that props up the USD PetroDollar a bit more, for a while longer.
Just America being a terrorist state and threatening to blow up innocent people, no biggie
"Hey guys. Guys. Listen. Lisssen.
What if.
What if we…
Lissen guys.
What if we…
Get involved in a 20 year war with jungle guerillas in Venezuela…
Hear me out…"
Just one more proxy war bro I swear that’s all we need and we’ll be done just one more bro please
This isnt likely to be a proxy war
More like Petro war
It looks like all airlines and pilots are afraid of the threat posed by the rogue country on the American continent - and I’m not talking about the one on the map.
Technically the US is on the map, though. Puerto Rico is right there.
The president of Puerto Rico would have something to say about that.
That’s a colony owned by the US but arguably not a part of the united states proper since PR isn’t a state
Are you also prepared to argue the same about Native American reservations or other territories? I feel like that kind of othering is dangerous.
You think a pizza cutter like that even thought through what they were saying?
They’re all still american citizens (for now) so I’d say it counts.
Honestly how much does that mean when they lack representatives / are unable to vote, and do not get full protection of US constitution (as per Wikipedia)? Sounds like citizens in name only…
Doesn’t your logic also throw out anyone living in Washington, D.C.?
Yes, and that’s also a significant problem and should be illegal.
It is. But enough of them still think that going full statehood brings other evils and they’re content with the sublevel of protection they have. And that is their right, we shouldn’t force it on anyone who doesn’t want it.
Here’s an article I found that may help provide context;
TL;DR: Trump advises people not to fly over or to Venezuela, some airlines stop, Venezuela govt bans airlines from flying there in response
You can’t fire me I quit vibes
Just checked and there are still some
You can check sites like https://skyvector.com/ to see active TFRs (temporary flight restrictions). This includes near permanent ones surrounding the White House and the President’s residence.
There are no TFRs around Venezuela. There are a few southeast of Puerto Rico that are for the DOD, presumably that is where they’ve been launching their attacks from.
