• starlinguk@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            There are shit tons of MEPs who are in Trump’s and/or Putin’s pockets. There won’t be any consequences for them personally.

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            1 month ago

            Europe is essentially a collection of neocolonies of the US empire. As Europe’s colonies gained independence and as NATO constantly increased demands for US military hardware and as fossil fuels became dominated by trade in dollars and as the Eurozone robbed them of currency sovereignty, they became stuck in a state of dependency on the US and USD. The amount of leverage Trump has to punish Europe is actually massive, tariffs are the tip of the iceberg.

            How does a winter without imported US gas sound? You can’t get it from Russia anymore, after all.

            The only hope I see for Europe is if they pivot to Asia, especially China. The only alternative is to get off of imported US natural gas and oil traded in dollars by switching to Chinese solar and electric vehicles, embrace electrification. The Netherlands backing down on stealing that Chinese chip factory gives me some hope that Europe isn’t going to alienate itself from China too.

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                The US would just wait for the EU to collapse, because even a single winter without US imports would destroy them. The UK couldn’t ramp up production that quickly, they’ve been declining as producers for a long time. There’d be at least a few years when people can’t heat their homes or run factories because they’re cut off from the US and Russia at the same time.

                Trump also seems fully willing to destroy the US just to teach his enemies a lesson lol

                Besides, just drilling for more fossil fuels is going to kill us all. Electrification is the only serious solution.

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                    1 month ago

                    A sudden 20% drop would be catastrophic. Europe could possibly thread the needle but things would be hard for a while, at least causing a multiple year recession.

                    I’m just explaining to you the material reasons for why Europe bends the knee to the US. What’s your explanation? They’re just dummies?

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            1 month ago

            Yes, the US is a stupid country full of stupid people.

            But, there’s a reason Europe is bending the knee. As stupid and self destructive as the US is, it can still wreck their economy.

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              1 month ago

              We’re all speeding towards the next great depression. Giving into the US won’t stop it from coming. But I do see your point

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                1 month ago

                Yes, Russia controls all the world’s governments.

                This is a reasonable thing to believe and not at all fucking stupid. 👍

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                  1 month ago

                  It’s not as if research has shown that Russia has been doing that shit for at least the past 10 years (I attend security conferences, they’re not fun, although the food is nice)

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            1 month ago

            Just to clarify, death to Amerikkka.

            I just recognize that the empire is dangerous and understand why weak liberals don’t want to provoke it.