Paid protestors. (Every accusation is a confession.)
Given that every single potential fracture line in Western society (gender, generation, religion, politics, mod vs rocker) is now hyper polarised, it’s kind of hard to argue in good faith that the Russian troll-farms set up to agitate this weren’t in some part a success. Best case we were going to end up doing to ourselves in the online era anyway and they get to pretend they did it.
This guy’s capacity for idiocy and own-goaling is astounding
He might be so surrounded by yes men and sycophants that he believes the grift and thinks honesty will help prove his points.
Lol, it lasted longer than I thought it would.
It’s been entertaining watching him go from Space Jesus here to redeem us by shooting a car into orbit to shorthand for the asshole billionaire who would be fired thrice over for incompetence if he didn’t own the place.
I’m actually shocked they didn’t think to use fucking VPNs.
Removed by mod
The bots are getting weird.
Fun story but this is the fourth time I’ve seen this today, think you could lay off a bit?
Best Story EVER!!!
Sad that this won’t amount to anything.
Too much plausible deniability, no immediate consequences. This will blow over in a week or less.
I’m frustrated, it’s frustrating.
The people who love shouting at people they hate don’t want to believe it, and if the last decade has taught us anything, it’s that no matter who you are, no matter what your education, political ideology, or background… everyone willingly discards reality in favor of something that makes them feel validated in some way.
Kayfabe isn’t a cultural phenomenon, it’s hardwired into us. And the worst people are leveraging it against the greater good.
For MAGA it isn’t really about plausible deniability. They are pretty much immune to reality.
At this point a person can be standing with a bloody knife and a dead corpse that was clearly mutilated by said knife, but if the person holding the knife is a billionaire, absolutely nothing will happen to him.
Too much plausible deniability
And they can easily spin this to say the system wasn’t working correctly and that all the locations were wrong for reasons.
A lotta people need to be dealt with for any real change. You cannot rely on the swaying of the masses via news. Too many people are too dumb to actually think.
Maybe they’re too dumb for thinking, but they have other qualities, like a natural propention of getting angry.
That even a third of them may be legitimate is still appalling.
I’m not even sure that final third is legitimate either. We have lots of home grown astroturfing here in America too. Wouldn’t surprise me if a big chunk of those accounts are just locally run bots.
Lbh, Musk has more alts than the MAU of the entire Fediverse.
Prabdeep Kumar, bastion of the ideals of the American right.
Shocked Musk would hide the location feature he wanted added.
Or
The MAGA are actually foreigners fanning flames on US tensions?
Yes.
I mean not that shocked.
Is there a more shocked? I feel like we need a poll.
And yet people think every extremist in Lemmy is DeFiNeTeLy nOt a BoT/PrOpAgaNdIsT
I’m fairly confident the vast majority of people don’t even know what lemmy is. In fact I’d wager more than 75% of the users on reddit don’t even know what lemmy is or how to access it.
Uh try 99% of Reddit users. Beep boop bop.
Yeah. So it’s a great place to test-drive social engineering with a smaller sample. Plus since most people here think they are the smartest of society, it becomes even easier.
Problem solved.
They could be using vpns, no?
Also it could be a psychological strategy. Like … “Hey look it wasn’t us, it was these foreigners!” When in reality it’s still Americans controlling these things regardless of a VPN or location. Basically digital proxy war.
We live in a time of 5th generation warfare… Humanity is basically dead and raped already if you are really paying attention. And like… The American lifestyle isrnt even what humans should be trying to save right now.
Fifth-generation warfare
Definition: A form of warfare that uses social engineering, misinformation, cyberattacks, and other non-kinetic actions to manipulate populations and achieve political goals. Tactics: Involves using propaganda, gaslighting, social media to create confusion, and psychological operations to undermine an opponent's morale and resolve. Goal: To influence public perception and control the information space, with the battlefield being the collective consciousness of the masses, not just physical territory. Key characteristic: It is often fought during peacetime and can involve both kinetic and non-kinetic force.You sound like those people who read the dictionary, having to force in their newly learned word into everything.
You sound like a pathetic cunt that makes fun of learning.
There is nothing wrong with learning. There is a lot wrong with being a pretentious twat about it.
All of them?
No. But I definitely do not believe America is NOT behind this. They just weasel out scapegoats to blame like the Mafia.
Also check out 5th generation warfare if you haven’t looked into it before.
That makes it sound like you see “America” as a monolith, which it absolutely isn’t.
I don’t think that divisions by national border are really at the heart of the issue at all. Rather, it’s the division between the rich and powerful and everyone else, as well as divisions within the rich and powerful.
I am against all of the rich and powerful, personally. I think that they should be equal to the rest of us. But there is certainly an element of them trying to undermine each other in this. Some of the rich and powerful of other countries rightfully see MAGA as bad for America (including the elites) and therefore see it as a way to get a leg up over their competitors.
Some of the rich and powerful in the US think that MAGA will be good for them, so they support it. Many of the others don’t want to support it, but they also are strongly opposed to any real counter to MAGA.
I see Americans as naive and stupid. I see modern politics as something essentially nationless. Rounding up cattle (Americans left or right) to be used.
I see Americans as naive and stupid.
Oh look, there’s that monolith they’re talking about. You see the entire country of 330,000,000+ as all being of one hive mind, carbon copies of one original, with no distinction for race, religion, creed, or self identity.
You effectively see all Americans as the Borg, who for all their faults, are not.
Median, not mean.
It’s a common trend these days, enter any American topic and someone will stereotype/broad-stroke that it’s all Americans.
I agree with the second statement. Modern politics is essentially nationless.
So, why are you singling out Americans as a group and painting them all with a stereotype?
Tell us more, oh wise one.
Why would an American patriot want to VPN via Russia or Bangladesh, anyway?
They can’t anyway because twitter banned in Russia
So they can watch porn on the wifi in their office.
Because they know america (or anyone) watches them…
You are attributing way too much intelligence and foresight to ultra right wing influencers and grifters here.
Not really… I think the world’s intelligence agencies play them out and are throwing a coup tbh. The end goal is not American, it’s a new world lifestyle being adopted by leading nations to create a culture that is completely surveilled and controlled. These nations, and the subcultures within them are a tool for the “enemy” …manipulated and played out.
Fifth-generation warfare
Definition: A form of warfare that uses social engineering, misinformation, cyberattacks, and other non-kinetic actions to manipulate populations and achieve political goals. Tactics: Involves using propaganda, gaslighting, social media to create confusion, and psychological operations to undermine an opponent's morale and resolve. Goal: To influence public perception and control the information space, with the battlefield being the collective consciousness of the masses, not just physical territory. Key characteristic: It is often fought during peacetime and can involve both kinetic and non-kinetic force.Fifth generation warfare, like hiring a bunch of bot farms in foreign world countries to prop up a corrupt government.
It is funny because it comes across as something new. Propaganda has been around a long time now and its modern counterpart public relations has been as well.
Perhaps the use of technology could be considered new, but the battle for the human pysche is nothing new.
