• WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org
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    They could be using vpns, no?

    Also it could be a psychological strategy. Like … “Hey look it wasn’t us, it was these foreigners!” When in reality it’s still Americans controlling these things regardless of a VPN or location. Basically digital proxy war.

    We live in a time of 5th generation warfare… Humanity is basically dead and raped already if you are really paying attention. And like… The American lifestyle isrnt even what humans should be trying to save right now.

    Fifth-generation warfare

    Definition: A form of warfare that uses social engineering, misinformation, cyberattacks, and other non-kinetic actions to manipulate populations and achieve political goals.
    
    Tactics: Involves using propaganda, gaslighting, social media to create confusion, and psychological operations to undermine an opponent's morale and resolve.
    
    Goal: To influence public perception and control the information space, with the battlefield being the collective consciousness of the masses, not just physical territory.
    
    Key characteristic: It is often fought during peacetime and can involve both kinetic and non-kinetic force. 
    
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      You sound like those people who read the dictionary, having to force in their newly learned word into everything.

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        No. But I definitely do not believe America is NOT behind this. They just weasel out scapegoats to blame like the Mafia.

        Also check out 5th generation warfare if you haven’t looked into it before.

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          That makes it sound like you see “America” as a monolith, which it absolutely isn’t.

          I don’t think that divisions by national border are really at the heart of the issue at all. Rather, it’s the division between the rich and powerful and everyone else, as well as divisions within the rich and powerful.

          I am against all of the rich and powerful, personally. I think that they should be equal to the rest of us. But there is certainly an element of them trying to undermine each other in this. Some of the rich and powerful of other countries rightfully see MAGA as bad for America (including the elites) and therefore see it as a way to get a leg up over their competitors.

          Some of the rich and powerful in the US think that MAGA will be good for them, so they support it. Many of the others don’t want to support it, but they also are strongly opposed to any real counter to MAGA.

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            I see Americans as naive and stupid. I see modern politics as something essentially nationless. Rounding up cattle (Americans left or right) to be used.

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              I see Americans as naive and stupid.

              Oh look, there’s that monolith they’re talking about. You see the entire country of 330,000,000+ as all being of one hive mind, carbon copies of one original, with no distinction for race, religion, creed, or self identity.

              You effectively see all Americans as the Borg, who for all their faults, are not.

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              I agree with the second statement. Modern politics is essentially nationless.

              So, why are you singling out Americans as a group and painting them all with a stereotype?

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      You are attributing way too much intelligence and foresight to ultra right wing influencers and grifters here.

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        Not really… I think the world’s intelligence agencies play them out and are throwing a coup tbh. The end goal is not American, it’s a new world lifestyle being adopted by leading nations to create a culture that is completely surveilled and controlled. These nations, and the subcultures within them are a tool for the “enemy” …manipulated and played out.

        Fifth-generation warfare

        Definition: A form of warfare that uses social engineering, misinformation, cyberattacks, and other non-kinetic actions to manipulate populations and achieve political goals.
        
        Tactics: Involves using propaganda, gaslighting, social media to create confusion, and psychological operations to undermine an opponent's morale and resolve.
        
        Goal: To influence public perception and control the information space, with the battlefield being the collective consciousness of the masses, not just physical territory.
        
        Key characteristic: It is often fought during peacetime and can involve both kinetic and non-kinetic force. 
        
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          Fifth generation warfare, like hiring a bunch of bot farms in foreign world countries to prop up a corrupt government.

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            It is funny because it comes across as something new. Propaganda has been around a long time now and its modern counterpart public relations has been as well.

            Perhaps the use of technology could be considered new, but the battle for the human pysche is nothing new.