At that time, it was generally frowned upon for retailers to display Christmas decorations or hold Christmas sales prior to Thanksgiving—a trend later referred to as “Christmas creep.”

At least we don’t have that problem anymore! /s

Thanksgiving has always been in October

I am annoyed by Christmas before Thanksgiving, but the change doesn’t seem that egregious, just avoiding the case where it could be a week later than usual:

in 1863, during the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln established the last Thursday of November as the official date for Thanksgiving to be celebrated each year. Following this tradition, every president thereafter declared a general day of Thanksgiving to be observed on the last Thursday in November. However, in 1939, during the Great Depression, November had five Thursdays, and the last one fell on November 30, which left little time for the Christmas shopping season. To address this concern, in August 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt decided to break from tradition and issued an executive order declaring that Thanksgiving would be celebrated on November 23 instead of November 30.

Also it didn’t work:

A 1941 Commerce Department survey found no significant expansion of retail sales due to the change.

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The entire pyramid collapses if consumers don’t consume.

They start stocking the shelves with Christmas crap a week before Halloween now

You have to buy and prepare your Halloween gear by the first week of October and buy all your candy two weeks before Halloween because there will be little to no Halloween stuff by Halloween … and anything you can buy the week before Halloween will either be no good or way overpriced and in that week before Halloween, you have to search for the Halloween stuff among all the Christmas stuff they started displaying.

FDR was unarguably the most socialist president the US has ever had

I wanted to burn a target down when I went there at noon on Halloween and the Halloween section was already stripped bare to make room for xmas shit. I made my purchase last minute elsewhere so there would be more candy on Halloween to give out. There’s no bigger shame than in having to turn the porch lights off early because half the candy got eaten before Halloween.

Finally figured out why retailers keep moving up the date on Christmas stuff. Consumers are only going to spend $X on decorations and the like. If you’re late getting those on the shelf, that money has already been given to your competitor.

So, it’s not greed, it’s, “Want the sale or not?”

Damn, what a concept. If people buy extra in this time period, it is 100% crap that they don’t need. Otherwise, they would be buying it, no matter when it gets stocked. So, the way to combat an economic crisis is to produce more garbage. Incredible.

We kept Thanksgiving in early October in Canada and they still start advertising for Christmas as soon as Halloween is done.

Wait. Shopping stops?