A 13-year-old student was expelled from a Louisiana middle school after hitting a male classmate who she said created and shared a deepfake pornographic image of her, according to her family’s lawyers.

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    Whooole lotta people in these comments defending the guy who produced and shared Child Exploitation Material. “She shouldn’t have resorted to violence, there were other options” “She shouldn’t have responded to bullying with physical assault” My favourite: “it was made with AI, so it’s not really child porn”

    Why is a 13 year old girl being asked to act with the calm sensibility of an adult in this situation, but no one is asking why a 13 year old boy thought it was okay to sexually harass his classmate? If she should have known better, he bloody should have too.

    While I agree that jumping to violence can sometimes be the wrong answer, there are at least two cases where you just gotta remind people that polite society has its limits: nazis, and people who are actively sexually assaulting a child. This person was openly sharing sexually explicit material of her with others in front of her. That is sexual assault under Louisiana law. And if you think asking a predator nicely to please stop ever works, you’re a naive fool.

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      I’m convinced that kids starting to get in so much trouble for fighting (really started up about 30 years ago) is why so many people have grown up being little assholes. No one grew up learning consequences for being a dick.

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      I don’t blame that girl one bit for hitting him. In fact, I hope she used her nails. Some people simply have no sense of boundaries until they receive percussive instruction.

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        Violence isn’t the answer to trolling.

        I hope this girl gets better influences that can show her right from wrong and how to be the bigger person. Her reaction would not fly in the real world.

        Edit for the downvoters: This is why, for good reason, none of you are in a position to make decisions that matter.

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          Sexual harrasment isn’t trolling, making CP isn’t trolling. I am 1000% okay with either of those things being met with violence. Especially when the victim is a child.

          Attorney Miller said school leaders at Sixth Ward Middle School failed to address the girl’s complaints about the circulating image, despite her reporting it to school leaders.

          “The school board’s actions in this case are reprehensible,” Miller said. “My client’s daughter was begging them all day to put a stop to this. Not only did they not put a stop to it, they put [her] on the bus with the perpetrator.”

          When the girl saw the photo being shared again on the school bus, she hit the boy who she said was responsible for creating it. She was later expelled from the school.

          She even tried to get it stopped the proper way and it was ignored. This is on the school admins. They should be glad she didn’t stomp the little pricks head in.

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            “Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats”

            HL Mencken

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            I hope you’re not implying that AI generated videos of minors is anywhere near as bad as actual children getting raped.

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              Imagine creating an account just to go and try to make the argument that some depictions of child pornogrophy isn’t as bad as children being raped. Because you feel the need to compare and rank them, why exactly?

              I don’t know if you’re serious or think you’re being some edgy troll. Regardless. Please go to the nearest mirror and ask yourself if this truly is the best version of yourself.

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              Hey guy, YOU don’t get to make explicit videos/pictures of whatever weird shit you want if it involves another person.

              This involved a real little girl who now knows for a fact that there’s a little boy who sees her boundaries as non-existent and just uses her body however the fuck he wants with no regard to her feelings.

              Get all the way fucked. I wish she beat his ass for this.

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                Exactly. Even if this was two adults it’d still be incredibly fucked up and wrong and, if in a workplace, should be a slam dunk win in a lawsuit

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              You are bullding a straw man so you can knock it down. Quit minimizing the harm done by creating sexually explicit images of a minor.

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                Not really. He’s the one who said “child porn,” which most people would assume to mean children being raped and recorded.

                If he’s trying to argue that “making sexually explicit AI videos of minors” deserves a violent response, then he is incorrect and he knows it.

                That’s why he tried to conflate the two.

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                  It’s porn.

                  She’s a child.

                  It’s child porn.

                  Her first response wasn’t violence. She was let down badly by the school then pushed and pushed until she hit him.

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                  A person putting a hidden camera in a child’s bathroom to get videos of them naked is also child porn and they also deserve violence upon them.

                  Making sexually explicit AI videos of minors absolutely deserves violence

                  If the article instead said the girls father who happens to be Mike Tyson punched the 13 year old boy so hard he had brain damage I could see an argument for that possibly being excessive.

                  With an emphasis on “possibly”

                  You are either uninformed or callous to the amount of damage that those videos can have to a 13yr old girl.

                  But the actions that boy took likely permanently altered that girls life for the worse including a significantly higher chance of suicide

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                  If he’s trying to argue that “making sexually explicit AI videos of minors” deserves a violent response, then he is incorrect and he knows it.

                  That was what was stated and also seems to be agreed is the correct response to child porn sorry “sexualy explicit AI videos of minors”.

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              Where the hell did they say anything about child rape? Do you think child porn is only porn when someone is getting raped you absolute disgusting trogoladyte? I refuse to downplay child porn no matter how it’s created. Especially in this case in which the porn was used to torture the girl it was made of.

              The police are charging the young man and don’t expect to do anything to the girl which is an example of people in the real world treating the situation appropriately. I can’t imagine the fucking idiot who didn’t let that girl contact her parents and instead put her in a situation where she COULD have a physical altercation with the abuser on the same bus.

              Thankfully the police are operating responsibly in this case, generally in the US we don’t even expect that.

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                He shouldn’t be trying to conflate the two and should be specific about his argument if he doesn’t want me to poke holes in it.

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                  I’m poking holes in his argument heehee!

                  These are real fucking people. Get some empathy.

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                  You didn’t poke holes, you made something up out of whole cloth. The thing you made was a big red flag on top of your head. Cause we’re all looking sideways at you right now.

                  Like how if someone knows way too much about Romeo and Juliette laws, or the age of consent. You are telling on yourself with the logical line of your arguments and I assume you don’t know how to stop that from leaking out.

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      I’m flabbergasted that the school wouldn’t let her call her parents. I don’t see how they have the right to do that without parental permission, not matter the reason why. But that supports violence. She tried what she was taught to do. The adults in the building failed. So she stood up for herself.

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      no one is asking why a 13 year old boy thought it was okay to sexually harass his classmate? If she should have known better, he bloody should have too.

      In fairness, he “was charged with ten counts of unlawful dissemination of images created by artificial intelligence”, so it’s not like he was given a free pass or anything.

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        She’s on the Internet for life. I hope he enjoys registering as a sex offender.

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          He absolutely should not be on the sex offense registry for doing something stupid at 13.

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            Hard disagree - he needs to be punished for sure, but if boys are going to be marked as sexual predators without actually touching someone, or exposing his genitals or some shit like that; they’ll start touching people physically and exposing their genitals since; “I guess the penalty is the same anyway…”

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            Until at least 18 he should be. Making deep fake porn in this day and age is not that big of a deal. Sharing it with classmates is seriously sick behavior. He sounds like an aspiring rapist and needs a serious wake up call.

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              Making deep fake porn in this day and age is not that big of a deal.

              Uhhh… ok… You’re entitled to your opinion. But I feel confident that the rest of us who doesn’t make deep fake sexual images of others would disagree with you. It is a big deal.

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      Im a firm believer that society would be better if everyone had a punch card. You get to punch one person in the mouth every 6 months. You will not be arrested, fined, fired, chastised or anything. Hefty fines apply to any retaliation outside of reciprocal punch carding. Women are allowed a small fist pack if striking a larger man.

      I guarantee you people will start treating each other better if you can get popped in the mouth. That boy is never gonna do that shit again I promise you. Core memory unlocked.

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        When I worked on the help desk I used to suggest to my boss that we should get one free “go off on a caller” per month and that it would do wonders for morale. He did not agree with me.

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        Fuck the punch card, if you’re an asshole you should deal with the consequences. Getting punched in the face is the least of what should be dealt with.

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        Hopefully you don’t get picked by Deonte Wilder. Kinda a death sentence for anyone that isn’t trained isn’t able to defend themselves.

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        I have actually thought quite a lot about this lol, and I kinda agree with you, violence should never be encouraged, but humans evolved to fear getting punched in the face or being eaten alive by a wild animal, not formal and polite warnings and fine haha, again not trying to make any point but just smthng i find interesting

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          “violence should never be encouraged” is a total bot thing to say. look at every major revolution throughout history. “violence is never the answer” is propaganda

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      I can only be so harsh on the boy. He is a child as well. And while he should be held accountable for the sexual assault, saying he is sexually abusing a child makes it sound like he’s some pedophile. It’s normal a 13 year old would be attracted to another 13 year old.

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      From a perspective of objective neutrality, in a state of nature, the ethically justified response is killing the aggressor. By doing so for tens of thousands of years, humanity weened itself of the psychopathy that had dominated our species, until civilization could actually arise. It’s like pulling weeds.