“NEW YORK WILL BE DESTROYED JUST LIKE PORTLAND!!!”
Logs into all the public webcams in Portland and sees that everything is fine and, oh my, what a beautiful city.
Buys a plane ticket to Portland just in case the webcams were fake news. Oh yes, oh my, what a beautiful city.
I know it’s a tangent, but oregon has one of the best Webcam setups I’ve ever seen. Tripcheck
You should see the racists from my shit hole county. In northeast Pennsylvania. Legit going out of their minds. And saying shit like their 20k a year income could ever afford them a life in NYC. Like sit down Tony. No one cares what you and your 41bmi has to say. Maybe take care of your health before you open your mouth.
Every 60 seconds in New York, a minute passes.
New Yokers with beards are just New Yorkers without beards with beards.
Sadly, they aren’t all old. The alt-right recruitment drive that’s been running for the last decade or so has borne a lot of fruit.
Yup.
Starting to think GenZ/Alpha aren’t going to save us. Not the men anyway. They’re buying into that dogshit hook, line, and sinker.
Millennials are the last generation to not be raised by an algorithm, and also seemingly the only generation that doesn’t get more conservative as they age, so I guess it’s up to us to save the planet.
Tbf, Gen Z just has a more “doomer” mindset, they don’t care anymore, they’d happily vote for a far-right, or even a socialist or a communist. I mean 60% of Americans have a positive view of Socialism. Its not really Gen Z being right wing, they are tired of the current system and is deparate for change, ANY change. So… lets hope they don’t choose change into the wrong direction.
“I feel a disturbance in the billions”
I hope what we take most from this is that 2026, 2028 is NOT “too early” or “too high stakes” for an ACTUAL progressive campaign. The DNC has used that argument 3x with Trump and lost said elections twice (only winning 2020 because Trump bombed w/ Covid-19). I’m certain we’ll hear it again in the next two national elections.
Having a competent populist leftist politician is not a detraction. Quite the opposite. NO to Gruesome Newsom
If AoC wins the primary I’ll vote for her.
If Newsom wins the primary I’ll vote for him.
I’ll be donating to AoC’s campaign though.
That’s definitely the praxis here.
By any chance do you have a good link that explains all the terrible stuff Gavin has done? I know some of the stuff but my memory is not like it used to be and my wife was asking and I wanted to explain to her that even though he’s making some funny Trump jokes he’s a piece of crap himself
It would be next to impossible to find a video like the one you’re asking for without MAGA pollutants.
I can name off one thing, his partying with incredibly expensive wine and food at the height of the pandemic after the mask mandates. That was the big thing for me that convinced me he’s a differently colored snake.
No good link, but there definitely should be one at some point. That’s an idea to consider.
Here are some of Newsom’s worst decisions:
- CARE courts, violating the 14th amendment rights of all residents (not just the homeless)
- Pioneering destruction of homeless encampments, similar to Trump’s “Ending Crime and Disorder…” executive order
- Vetoing a passed bill to allow stockpiling HRT
Shit, we’d be lucky if they went with someone as marginally craptastic as Newsom. We can’t put any candidate in if they have any chance of getting any of our agenda in; they have to be 100% right-friendly or they won’t even try.
Just to be very clear, the DNC leadership is antagonistic to our (I assumed) shared goals.
The Democrats are obviously what needs to be supported in a 2 party system, so regardless of the DNC antics, the sacrifice for not choosing them will be more severe, and they know that.
I’m saying this all to say, absolutely support a progressive candidate if you can in the primaries, but when it comes election time, fall in line.
Also, there is a big problem where Mamdani is supremely clever and fast on his feet, having practiced every comeback a million times in the shower, ready to let them rip on command.
At the federal there is no one with that level of natural charisma or wit.
That’s something important to point out.
I’m saying this all to say, absolutely support a progressive candidate if you can in the primaries, but when it comes election time, fall in line.
No.
A candidate campaigns for MY vote.
The Democratic establishment can prove they aren’t an obstacle to progress, me blindly voting for them is no longer a grace I automatically extend to a party hellbent on sabotaging progressives even if it means losing to literal fascists.
Don’t vote to get the best party in. They all suck. Vote to keep the worst party out.
Well yes, until a point
… and that’s how Trump got in.
Is it?
YES
I wish I could down vote this a thousand times !
Sure, and compromise is inherent to democracy. So go vote for who you want in the primaries, and vote against who you don’t want in the general.
What democracy?
Any/every democracy?
I meant to imply the USA does not have one.
Last time this primary vs general was paid attention to (internationally at least), it was because Bernie was about to out-primary Hillary and then the Democrats figuratively put their thumb on the scale and gave it to Hillary.
I absolutely understand even a dead rat would be better president than the Pedophile in Chief you have now. But the people of the USA barely have a very indirect path to elect their representatives… this is a democracy like Cheetos are “food”
Okay. I meant to imply that any democracy (practically by definition) is based on compromise, which is why I said that straight up instead of snarkily (and unhelpfully) bashing the USA.
As for the Hillary-Bernie thing… At then end of the primary, Hillary had like 3 million more votes than Bernie did. Notably, Bernie conceeded to Hillary and even campaigned for her, because he knew that she was much better than trump, and democracy is inherently a compromise.
Absolutely, but I will not keep falling in line for candidates that would rather lose than listen to me and publicly and emphatically support the very reasonable policies I want.
At a certain point my vote is earned, it has to be or else I will be ignored.
I think you are missing the meaning of “compromise”. You need to vote for the candidate that will best represent you… And part of the best representation equation is being able to win the election.
No, the Democratic Party is selectively missing the meaning of “compromise” only when it comes to shutting down progressives, they are happy as hell to hand power to conservatives.
I know what compromise looks like and I reward it when I see it.
I know what compromise looks like and I reward it when I see it.
… I will not keep falling in line for candidates that would rather lose than listen to me…
I rest my case.
No.
A candidate campaigns for MY vote.
This stupid shit will lose you the ability to vote, and fuck over millions of people not deserving the blunt end of said stupidity.
It’s been seen time and time again that democrats losing shifts them right.
Thats what happens.
The DNC knows that all they have to do is play “At least we’re not trump” and they’re happy enough.
You acting like a petulant child, as if somehow you’re really getting back the rich out of touch people is pants on head stupid. It’s you that loses the most. Actually no, its the marginalized people who lose the most, yet you sit there, pout, and fuck yourself and your fellow country while having a childish tantrum.
The Democratic establishment can prove they aren’t an obstacle to progress
They won’t, and you already know this, so you can either be mature and pragmatic by realizing this and voting as best aligns with your interests while trying to change the party over time as this is a 2 party winner takes all/first past the post style system, or you can act like a child, and self harm;throwing a tantrum whilst walking a tight rope.
me blindly voting for them is no longer a grace I automatically extend to a party hellbent on sabotaging progressives even if it means losing to literal fascists.
I refuse to believe real people and not fascists agitators can have opinions this brain dead.
It’s literally the political equivalent of throwing a hissy fit about the amount of foam in a latte. Literal Karen voters.
I refuse to believe real people and not fascists agitators can have opinions this brain dead.
This is exactly why people with your perspective are destroying this country and keep losing elections to fascists, y’all refuse to believe reality and instead feel the need to force a moral judgement on votors not giving your shit candidates votes automatically because “other side bad”.
It’s been seen time and time again that democrats losing shifts them right.
Thats what happens.
That is their choice, not mine.
This is exactly why people with your perspective are destroying this country and keep losing elections to fascists
Its crazy you say shit like this when we both support progressiveness. “You are realistic and therefor bad”.
y’all refuse to believe reality and instead need to force a moral judgment on voters not giving your shit candidates votes automatically because “other side bad”.
They literally aren’t my preferred candidates. That was inherent to the statment that they were not preferred but you still should because not doing so is petulant tantrum throwing that hurts many, including yourself.
You badly want reality to just work the way you want it to work instead of the way it does, and would rather be delusional than face the facts.
You literally can’t logically justify your emotional and self harming behaviour and never stop to self reflect on why that is.
That is their choice, not mine.
100% your choice. Fortunately you are an (insane and child like) minority, but holy fuck do you not help.
You do know that when you start insulting your opponent you’ve both lost the argument and shown your ass, right?
Hopefully one day you’ll realize that you are the problem, that it is you carrying water for the right-wing party that together with the far-right-wing party have turned the good ole USA into a right-loving hellhole, slowly but surely over the last 50 years or so. Always unable to understand why a growing number of people are done with your political farce, just foaming at the mouth as your shill cries of blue-compliance and lesser-evil voting fail to do anything.
You do know that when you start insulting your opponent you’ve both lost the argument and shown your ass, right?
No, I don’t know that, because its something people without actual points in their favour bust out when they feel the other person has been too blunt.
In this case, the other person wishes to harm a significant amount of people. I owe them no apologies, and the only people showing their asses are the people treating significant, real life politics like a game and as if they were children flipping all the pieces off because they didn’t win.
Hopefully one day you’ll realize that you are the problem, that it is you carrying water for the right-wing party that together with the far-right-wing party have turned the good ole USA into a right-loving hellhole, slowly but surely over the last 50 years or so.
The thing about this child like understanding of this easy to understand system where only 2 parties will ever have a chance due to the math of it being a first past the post/winner takes all system, is that the very obvious only way to change said system without tremendous blood shed, is by slowly transitioning the party closest to your goals over time. Because this can’t be completed faster than a short on tiktok or youtube, you get enraged and think the whole system can never be fixed. Do you have a solution? Of course you don’t though. You’d instead have it get more broken, harming you and your causes more.
and lesser-evil voting fail to do anything.
This by itself is tremendously ignorant to the massive differences in policy between the 2 parties. All of this comment is filled with impotent irate ignorance.
Stop condescending me, Kamala campaigning with Liz Cheney daughter of deceased war criminal Dick Cheney while utterly silencing Palestinian voices was what lost the US presidential election, not progressives.
No, this is a tea party moment for the left, we don’t need the Democratic Party, they need us and they are still refusing to behave like they do.
Stop condescending me
No. You’re wilfully harmful takes actively deserve that as you seek to hurt unrelated people for the actions of people who will be completely insulated from your tantrum.
Kamala campaigning with Liz Cheney daughter of deceased war criminal Dick Cheney while utterly silencing Palestinian voices was what lost the US presidential election
Maybe the first part, but any people who protest voted over the Palestinians have the blood of the thousands more that have been killed on their hands as a direct result.
You cannot simply ignore the world just because its not the way you want it to be.
No, this is a tea party moment for the left, we don’t need the Democratic Party
The movement that ultimately still voted for republicans when the time came for the most part as it was incredibly small because anyone who understand math understands that in a winner takes all/first past the post system you can’t have more than 2 main parties?
they need us and they are still refusing to behave like they do.
No. You have it backwards. They’re fine with losing. You aren’t. You and people you must be pretending to care about get fucked when they lose. They know that, and so you aren’t making them stop and think, you’re just fucking yourself and others harder.
You are enabling fascism.
Congratulations, you are why Trump was elected. It’s your fucking obligation as a citizen to be informed and engaged in our process. Is the two party system bullshit? Yes. But the way it’s set up if you abstain or vote third party that’s effectively a vote for a republican, and you are very nearly as responsible as them. You want a more progressive dnc? Register and fucking primary incumbent establishment dems with progressives. Drag the party left or own the fucking responsibility of being a part of the problem.
Congratulations, people like you are why Democrats lose when they try to appeal to what they perceive to be centrist views and betray their base for massive corporations :)
Democrats lose when they fail to turn out their base because their base knows they are full of shit…
Where in the hell have you been for the last thirty years? The Democrats are a centrist party. If anything they’re a center right party because of people spouting bullshit like you instead of pulling the party left. If every whiny liberal and leftist actually fucking voted in primaries for progressives we’d have a populist progressive Democrat party. But you’d rather bitch on the internet about your bullshit principles that got trump elected.
LOL it hasn’t even been a year and the “iM vOtInG fOr JiLL sTeIn” morons are back in full force as if nothing even happened
do what you want comrade. but don’t expect to not get shat on and ridiculed for your wrong decision
Did I say I voted for Jill Stein?
did you vote for harris?
Yes
and yet you’re already saying no to whomever the DNC picks to replace a literal fascist rapist convicted felon con-man…
i’m skeptical, but it doesn’t matter. my point stands. there are TWO possible outcomes, like it or not, and 3rd party is NOT one of them
Republicans are scared shitless that people will get another taste of socialism like they did with the wildly popular FDR…
What are the young racists doing right now?
Putting on blackface for Instagram instead of going out for Halloween
The race was rigged! The people of Kentucky will not let this stand!
LMAO. TBH I don’t blame them [people in Kentucky confused the polls were closed] because 1 - civics education = no; 2 - the way the NYC election was covered, you’d think it was a national race.
It was a national race, spiritually
It wasn’t Mamdani vs Cuomo, it was Mamdani vs Trump
Unfortunately, it’s not just old or white people. Just look at the young GOP Nazi club or all the latinos that voted for Trump
or all the latinos that voted for Trump
It’s like fire voting for water. It’s honestly hard to wrap your mind around.
I don’t know how true this is.
I read recently that when Trump’s speeches have been translated for non-English speakers, they are wildly different than what he is actually saying.
And when bilinguals translate for them directly, they aren’t believed because the literal translation is pants on the head crazy.
This was on a YouTube channel, so it was just some dude and not like an official news source, but back in 2020 I found a Trump speech with German subtitles. Specifically, it was the time Trump said to stop testing for COVID so that there wouldn’t be any cases.
The exact quote is: “If we stopped testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any.”
But the subtitles meant something like “We’ve done the tests and have very few cases.”
So, it completely changed the statement from something utterly stupid and ridiculous to reporting that the US just didn’t have many COVID cases, which was obviously false.
Watch the 20 v 1 where Mehdi from Zeteo takes on a bunch of MAGA folk. They’re all 20-30 years old and it’s fucking crazy how many of them are blatantly racist and/or fascist. I’ll have to come back with the video link for you guys.
Edit: here you go https://youtu.be/2S-WJN3L5eo
Jubilee - Surrounded is a completely twisted version of reality where they have been called out for deliberately finding and paying people to take the most extreme positions to represent the worst of humanity.
I’m not saying that there aren’t open fascists out there, many of them are now running our country in fact, but we all HAVE to start shutting the door on this kind of pandering rage-porn that makes us all hate each other for clicks. It’s making it all worse. Jubilee is not how people talk, it’s not how we reach each other and make change.
Isn’t that usually inverted though? Where the 1 is generally the one with extreme views and the 20 are deliberately picked to be inarticulate and oafish, thus promoting the extreme view? Admittedly it’s likely impossible to find a MAGAt that isn’t inarticulate and oafish.
From what I gather, they will try to do whatever they can to just ramp up the drama and conflict, whether it’s bringing in some outrageous character who participates in bad faith like Jordan Peterson, or if it means slipping a benjie to someone to play up being a crazy freak.
Andrew Callaghan said that when he went on “against” 20 conspiracy theorists, the production crew kept telling him that he needed to push back harder, but he didn’t play by their rules and ended up having one of the better episodes, where he gave people a chance to be heard and listened and asked questions and it was very civil and friendly. Unfortunately, that’s not what gets the most views though, so that kind of thing is discouraged.
Thanks for this added perspective. I’m not surprised, but I did not know nor did it even occur to me that some of them may be paid shills.
That was wild, thanks!
I’m not remotely entertained by shot like this and find it weird people are. It’s a weird sort of cope exactly like the meme is portraying. People are hurting everywhere because of the regime and you’re here laughing it up like we dun won it.
I hope Mamdani does well because he’s going to be under a magnifying glass and behund a wall of anti person propaganda.
Hell have to exceed what any mayor should have to be able to do and even then the media will call him mid.
This is not a cakewalk.
we know schumer, and the rest of the old guard dnc also melting down.
“What are we going to do when an actual liberal does the job we were supposed to be doing?!”
It’s quite fascinating that, on the one hand they think everything he tries will fail and he won’t achieve any of the things he promised, and at the same time they also think his policies will destroy New York City and all the business will leave.
Those aren’t mutually exclusive though
Well, in a general sense (meaning, to be extra clear, I am not referring to Zamdani specifically), “these ideas won’t accomplish what he intends” and “these ideas will mess everything up” are not mutually exclusive at all. They’re essentially the same sentiment, if you think about it.
I think the confusion is in the incorrect assumption that only the successful execution of a policy/idea/etc. can do the latter, but the same level of damage could easily happen in the course of an ultimately-failed attempt, as well.
That’s enough pedantry from me for now, though, lol.
If you’re going to be pedantic, you have to always reread for typos 😂
Busses can’t be free if his radical left wing agenda breaks all the busses. Checkmate commie.
The enemy is both weak and strong
Schrödinger’s Politician …
Lol bet
R/conservative is really funny right now. They’re clawing their own eyes out over literal NYC just because it’s Daddy’s favorite place
Psyched for Mamdani and NYC but is hard to believe how many people voted for a sexual harassmer who is also openly corrupt
If you think that’s wild wait till you hear about all the law enforcement officers across the country that voted for a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist.
Is it “hard to believe” when the Americans voted twice to elect a full on rapist for President?.. with the added qualifications of convicted felon, fraudster and 99.99% likely a pedophile?
I think it’s time to accept Americans could not care less about sexual assault, women or kids rights.
Yes, that is a generalization with a nasty connotation but that is what Americans have shown to be
Yes, it’s surprising because it’s NYC. I expect better from a city that’s 60-70% liberals.
The issue, IMO, is the “fuck you, got mine” attitude from so many Americans.
Sure, someone who identifies as a “Liberal” may not want trans people be victimized but if they themselves are not trans (or maybe a close loved one), it’s really someone else’s problem not really worth doing anything about… maybe a post online
Fascism has taken over in the USA because of decades of dumbing down the public and rage farming… but the actual cause at the moment is that the raging idiots are willing to take action while the rest, unless personally affected, “can’t be bothered”
You say that like it isn’t the totally normal thing that seems to happen more often than not
Well we do have a child diddler for a president.
I am sorry, do you not know who run the presidency?
Yeah but it’s NYC. A lot of people voting for him voted against Trump.
“People”
NYC hates trump, which makes it funnier
the russian mods have to reorient the sub soon enough.
My bet is they kill him. (I don’t like it I’m just saying)
And then they blame it on “left wing political violence” and then the shooter’s family will be like “look at all these pictures of him wearing maga hats” and then the media will be like “but he had a high school class with someone who’s cousin was bisexual so he’s obviously a left wing lunatic”.
lol. It’s almost Word for Word
Complete with a completely fake made up text log with children talking like love sick ww2 soldiers.
