Morning people, in my experience at least, firmly believe that night people are just morning people with insufficient self-discipline.
Lmao, 100%. I swear most folks I know believe being a night owl is simply a lack of self control, or they have a screw loose
sure it’s a lack of self control, if i had better self control i could force myself to go to bed at 21:00 and lie there for 2 hours until i fall asleep out of tortured boredom, and then i could force myself out of bed at 07:00 despite my limbs feeling like lead and every movement bringing me abject misery and pain!
There’s actually a genetic bias on it. It can be overridden, but you’ll always feel a bit burnt out from it. It also changes with age (teenagers are the latest, getting earlier as you age.
As a night person who has to wake up at 6am, I can absolutely confirm. I’m always tired.
I’m the same way. If I fall asleep at 10pm but wake up at 6am I’m absolutely miserable for the first hour, but if I go to sleep at 2am and wake up at 10am I’m refreshed and in a good mood most of the time. I’m 30 and it hasn’t gotten any better with age yet.
Fuck mornings I hate them so much.
44 and still this way 2am-10am is pretty much my dream schedule.
Unfortunately I have a child.
For anyone curious about it, here are some sources.
I used to be a night owl, then I had a job that required me to get up at 5:30. It sucked for 2 weeks and now I’m a morning person.
I’m a night owl and even early morning acclimatization hasn’t helped.
There were a few months that I had to do 12.5 hour shift work where I had to be at work at 5:30 AM and I was miserable the entire time. It’s hard to adjust when your natural cycle is like 10 am to 2 am.
I’ve done all the shifts and it fucking sucks.
We did week about shifts. That meant earlies for a week, nights, then lates. Every week you had to change your sleep pattern.
I liked earlies to nights because long weekend (finish 11am Fri start 10am Mon) and a fun “adaptation” that required me to stay up as late as I possibly could on Sunday night. I’d drink, smoke and play games with US chums (UK here) until 3 or 4am and then sleep as late as possible.
It fucking sucked but I did it for a good decade. Then managed to wangle permanent 6-2 shift.
It was a revelation.
Suddenly I had a regular sleep pattern. It was hard to train, but I managed to get a good 6 hours a night most nights. Which was good, I’ve always suffered insomnia for lots of reasons, so I managed to become one of those people that survives on minimal sleep. More sleep was amazing.
I’ve kind of got it down nowadays, thanks in no small part to some pills I was given for my restless legs. They make me drowsy, so if I take them at the right time I can force a sleep pattern, and they stop me kicking my wife up the arse when I’m asleep.
Back to your point after a trip through the weeds, I now do 2 week late shift and 2 week early shift, there’s a permanent night shift at this new place.
When I’m on the early shift I wake up at 5am on the Saturday and Sunday without fail. Once I forgot to set my alarm for work and woke up a minute before it should have gone off. Years of the early shift have honed my wake up time to a knife edge.
Sometimes on the weekend I can’t get back to sleep for various reasons, so it’s not an uncommon sight to find me gaming on my PC at 7am on a Sunday morning. I don’t want to be there, but it’s kinda nice having the peace and quiet of being a night owl with the sun up and a sleep cycle behind instead of in front of you.
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Well what it ‘proves’ to them is that mankind is supposed to follow the exact same routine that works for them. My Dad was forever saying “Early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.” Died when he was 45.
To quote Yakko Warner:
Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy, but socially dead
I think I had never seen this much upvoted post on kbin. You speak the truth, brother/sister/sibling!
Then there’s my fucking cunt of a housemate who lkves on the floor above me that’s the loudest mother fucker on the face of the earth and fucking stomps around until 1am every night and opens and slams close every fucking draw and door in his room, and re arrnafes his furniture every night, then gets up at 6.30 in the morning so he can stomp around some more, hack up his lungs as loudly as humanly possible and slam every door in the fucking house before leaving for work exactly when my alarm goes off, specifically so I can’t have a single good night sleep ever.
Sorry I may have some pent up anger.
Sorry I may have some pent up anger.
Nothing a good night of sleep can’t solve!
This guy.
I think the two of you need to sit down for a little talk 😂
In my experience people who have this utterly devoid of consideration are not only unable to change, they will get angry at you for suggesting they’ve done something wrong.
I wish OP the best of luck.
Yeah I can’t really describe it but this guy lives in his own little world. He’s a friendly bloke but just does not give the slightest shit about anything that doesn’t affect him personally.
Yeah. The only solution here is to move.
You must live below the people in the apartment next to me.
Why are people like this. Really. I want a serious, well thought out answer from people who act like this. I would be fucking appalled if I found out people had been losing sleep because of me. Or they weren’t able to concentrate when working from home, or had to get a bluetooth converter for their tv to connect headphones because otherwise they can’t even enjoy tv with all the stomping, banging, furniture moving, and door slamming. I would feel so fucking guilty and especially embarrassed for coming off as such an entitled piece of shit. I literally cannot comprehend that there are people who know they’re disturbing others, in their own homes, day and night, and they either don’t give a shit, or they get mad at the person they’re torturing for asking them nicely to keep it down. Or both. And yes I have brought it up with my landlord countless times. They could give a fuck. The next step is to contact the city and have them come in with a decibel meter or something. In my state, landlords must ensure “peaceful enjoyment” for tenants. But I’d have to prove it’s over a certain level, then deal with filing a complaint and/or civil court or whatever, so nothing ever changes.
This is one situation where I think an eye for an eye is perfectly reasonable, because after living through over a year of daily constant noise, I think my next door neighbors aren’t deserving of a single moment of peace from now on.
Everyone seems to have a story like this, which makes me think that we might actually be just as loud as the people we complain about without realizing it. Think about it. It’s not like we can actually hear what we sound like from the floor below while we are “softly walking around” upstairs.
I got told we were like this once. Mle and my wife would literally tiptoe around after, carefully close doors, live in a constant state of worry, and still the next morning the guy below would say “you’re literally shaking paintings off the walls!” My wife was physically afraid to run into him after a bit.
At the time I thought the apartment must have paper thin walls that apparently I couldn’t hear through, but now I think he was just an ass. Living off self righteous anger.
Its time to get a dirt cheap van, convert it out, and pay yourself the ‘rent’
I feel like I know this guy
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I could have written this. I feel your pain.
Same with the welfare parasite NEET one floor above me.
So fucking much this. They have no respect for the owls
And they are so f*cking proud of being up early as if a short sleep is something worth to accomplish
“Sure is dark in this room. Better turn on every light in the county.”
Fuckin’ A
How else am I supposed to signal to the night owls that it’s time to hit the bed before they got to wake up in 2 hours?
before they got to wake up in 2 hours?
I wonder why
I swear if there’s two types of people Lemmy hates as much Nazis and billionaires it’s poor people and people who don’t work first shift
Tell me you’ve never lived above a bar without saying you’ve never lived above a bar
I live a full 100 meters from a bar but every fucker leaving will scream at full volume as they are leaving. I’m so desensitized from women screaming at night that I could miss a genuine rape outside my front door and not even roll over.
I owned one and conveniently had an apartment above it in the past.
With that perspective I tried keeping it not too noisy. Speakers facing in a way to prevent noise pollution to the outside, less bass on everything too. Central speakers also get to be louder while speakers close to the windows are not as loud. It’s not ideal but it’s much better than being entirely careless.
The customers at least tend to not be noisy unless it’s karaoke night. They have some common decency where I live.
I went to an Airbnb in Milano, in which in the middle of it’s block was literally a night club. Literally block residents and people who come to party enter and exit the same block door.
However, I didn’t hear anything, they soundproofed the hell out of this place, and the culture isn’t loud.
I shined a torch in my wife’s sleeping face this morning at 5am.
I didn’t mean to, I was looking for my ear tunnel, it had fallen out in the night and I didn’t want to go a day at work with a cats arsehole for an ear lobe.
I looked for my spare ones first, I really didn’t want to be that guy, I’m a night person.
Anyway I sent her this and she had to remind me I was a bastard.
She’s right.
my ear tunnel, it had fallen out in the night and I didn’t want to go a day at work with a cats arsehole for an ear lobe.
I think I might be having a stroke, I don’t understand what’s going on here at all.
It’s the plastic kind of beads they put in their ear lobes to stretch them into a hole.
When you remove them, the hole left behind looks like a cat’s butt.
Just To be pedantic: tunnels don’t have to be made of plastic, I think surgical steel is more common.
No, that’s a fine addition because I hardly know anything about tunnels. I just felt the need to explain the basics of what I know to them.
Give this user a cats butt for being correct.
I was a big fan of the body modification scene when I was younger. Now I’m approaching my 40 my piercings have all been removed except these ear stretches.
Do I regret them? No I still quite like em.
There’s a sleep disorder, diurnal, common for people with adhd. Their brains don’t wake up, start functioning til 6pm, wide awake all night.
I’m so careful, courteous at night, super quiet, walking softly… then 6am, morning people wake, stomping, slamming, music blasting. So not fair.
My partner, 6am without fail.
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yeah, in my experience night owls are just as inconsiderate
If you deviate from the norm, don’t expect the majority to tip-toe around your sensibilities.
Part of that might be the amount of noise required for the tasks
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