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When you’re young you experience the world, when you get older you keep the world working for the young to experience it, and when you’re old you wish you’d made it work better so you could’ve really experienced it.
funny thing is, this was true 40 years ago, and it’s true today.
I love this art style so much.
The problem is Capitalism.
It’s part of it, but not only that
We have a circus we gotta run out of town first
They said that to me when I was a kid… and I was born in the 80s.
They said that to me when I was a kid and I was born in the 60s.
And now they’re in retirement.
Fuck them. They should have been in prison thirty years ago.
What?
Those ones were right. We are solving it now, and we either finish solving it or our children will have to deal with resource depletion when their time to shine comes.
Either way, it’s not Global Warming that they will be solving.
Oh no, they’re not just going to let it happen. They’ll actively stop us from solving it.
“Sorry kid, I need my 9% returns on these investment funds, and I don’t care where that money comes from.”
I bought this stock from a company called planter or something, it’s going crazy lately
I don’t care where that money comes from.
Unless it’s renewable energy tech, then fuck it, those shitheads can rot in hell!
Well im not having solar panels near my town. They’ll absorb all the sunlight and it’ll be dark!
Windmills slow the planet down!!!
But wouldn’t it be nice if there was more time in a day?
But the windmills will kill all the birds (that there are none left of)!
Not real ones, anyway
And they’ll put more of us on the planet too, because it’s so wonderful here.
Solving? There’s an undeniable solution that has been there as long as the problem has
I’m in favor of completely remove the humans. We should have the tech already.
Which is…?
There’s a pretty public list of who owns the most resources
Stop burning fossil fuels.
That would help, but definitely not stop climate change.
Sure, taking your foot off the accelerator doesn’t technically stop the car.
Either you ration things that warm the planet, or you find a way to cool it directly? Neither of these options can be done at a large enough scale.
Humans have never been good at constraining cultures that gorge on a limited buffet of resources.
Implementing climate control will be costly and is still controversial, especially proposed solutions that require polluting the stratosphere with chemicals.
I’m still optimistic about geoengineering research.
Of course, nobody will want to foot that bill until they’re staring the threat in the eyes.
Stupid generations war. As stupid as men vs women, religion vs religion etc. It should be smart people vs stupid greedy sociopaths
Class war is the only war that will get us out of this.
It won’t either. Class cold wars can get you some results, but hot wars are always damaging to everybody.
And simply blaming older people also hides the problem of global inequality and exploitation of the third world. Most elderly in my country only faced food insecurity and hyperinflation when younger, and their environmental impact for all the time they’re alive is smaller than the environmental impact of a current teenager in the usa.
Boomer: “Climate change will be your burden to suffer through”.
Gen Z: “It’s not fair. You got a full life of profligacy before the effects were even noticeable. I get none of the material wealth and I’m going to have to live my whole long life suffering increasing effects of it.”
Boomer: “Not so long.”
Also boomers: “When are you having kids? I want grandchildren.”
Told my mom I didn’t want kids and she said, “Oh you’ll change your mind”
I came out to my mom as gay and she said “well you can always adopt”
Then I started intense birth control treatments for my fucked up reproductive system and she was like, “you can still adopt”
Yeeted my uterus, cervix, and fallopian tubes just before my bday this summer and threw a fuckin party afterwards because now there is absolutely no way I can ever be a parent AND my reproductive system can’t do whatever the fuck it wants cause it doesn’t exist!
My mom finally accepted that this part of the family tree has ended after that. This while process happened over 18 years. I started telling her I didn’t wanna be a parent when I was TEN.
Edit: I should prolly say that my mom isn’t a boomer, but Gen X. She’s surrounded constantly by boomers and other members of Gen X who act like boomers so she has picked up a lot of the traits. Practically demanding grandchildren was the worst boomer thing she’s done so far, and I hope it stays that way.
Meanwhile. Most Boomers post adoption
They’re not my real grandchildren.
How my grandmother was when my sister was adopted. Never treated her the same as the rest of the grandkids. Even when my sister helped care for the bitch 24/7 while she was living in our home dying of self-inflicted lung cancer.
I was not sad when my grandmother died, if you can tell.
“well you can always adopt”
As if adoption wasn’t an extremely intensive process that goes on for who knows how many years and even then it’s not guaranteed you’ll actually get the kid. Let alone how much it differs from DIY.
Thank you for your service.
What action in my timeline are you referring to as my service lol
Lol. Not having kids is one of the most ethical choices we can make.
Ah. See, I don’t want children because I’m what you call a selfish person and want to live my life completely unbound. Kids would just kill my dreams and the vibe.
The ethical part is just a bonus to make me feel even better about my decision.
This guy’s an anti-natalist, I wouldn’t take seriously anything he fucking says.
Fuck off. Anti-natalism is eugenics and anyone who advocates for it is a Nazi in my eyes. Not to mention 90% of you all just project your major depression and misery into literal 8 year olds. Please just go to therapy.
Every conversation people have about “degrowth” and “the earth has too many people” always leads to someone advocating for eugenics OR LITERAL GENOCIDE. The Earth, right at this moment, can hold ten billion people. The problem is capitalism, consumerism and food waste.
Everything you don’t like or understand is Nazi?
Degrowth. It’s not antinatalism, nor eugenics. But simple people need simple answers. It’s ethically shrinking humanity’s population and consumption to within what the earth can sustain. That’s it.
You know what hole to shove your Nazi bullshit up.
Selfishness incarnate lol
I once saw it described as the Boomers being the “fuck around” generation and Gen Z being the “find out” generation.
Yes.
Well, they are definitely making death more appealing every day. So there is that.
I remember a similar comment made by one my highschool teachers. Because I was such a try-hard cringe edge lord I said something like “if my generation got rid of your generation, then we’ve solved that problem”.
Amazing that you had enough knowledge to answer like that in the first place. Looking back on my school days, I was so uninformed about so many important things: climate, politics - you name it.
Do you think if we had lifespan in the centuries we’d have a different perspective?
Not under capitalism. The wealthiest will do just fine in climate collapse and they’re planning for it. They don’t care about anything beyond the next fiscal quarter in terms of environment.
The 2001 game Arcanum (a steam punk fanatsy hybrid) had that perspective. You had a world based in late Victorian industrialization and you had elves and dwarves and stuff… but those same dwarves and elves had VERY different views on technology. This is because they live for centuries while humans just decades. They make it clear that the two longer living races often approach technology (elves hate it btw, dwarves like it but are cautious) with caution specifically because they can see the effects of their shit from a hundred years from now while humans simply cannot.
I believe it’s more a cultural thing. In a lot of places, people think in terms of a community, not individuals, and will plan things for the longer terms. But in american culture, people are much more selfish and short-sighted. Problem is that they have been shoving their culture in the entire world, and it makes it look like this is the default for all of humanity.
This comic is TERRORISM according to Trump’s Republican Party!
“WE ARE ALL DOMESTIC TERRORISTS” -CPAC 2022
This comment is anticapitalist and therefore terrorist…
Lemmy is anticapitalist and therefore blocked by the Great American Firewall.
Dissidents will be reported.
Hopefully Trump will die of a stroke before before his third term
Laughs in veganism (and thus taking personal responsibility for changing, non-hypocrisy and non-virtue signalling and non-deflecting)
I was thinking like this when I decided to go into the field, like “we can’t just doom the next generation and peace out”, now i’m deep in it at the highest level and i’m like “ooh that’s why…”
