I still get phone calls for help from my old employees lol

Yeah a lot of poor performance and quitting, and even things like employee theft are all very tied to crappy bosses.

I still have ptsd about some of my old managers.

A lot of people leave because of their manager, it’s true. I think employers know this and actually use it.

I remember when I worked at a grocery store chain that was facing financial problems, and when they wanted to shut down the store, they assigned a new head manager of the store who wasn’t local. She basically abused the staff - she would make us do work and then undo the work, she would yell at us and verbally abuse us. She would make people work unreasonable shifts, and do tasks that were clearly designed to create suffering.

At the time I was very confused by all of this, and I just coped with it. But looking back, I think they were trying to get people to find other jobs and quit so they didn’t have to layoff the employees & pay severance once the store closure occurred.

Ironically I had to drop my hours to 0 when I took an internship, and they never purged me as an employee, so when the store did close I was actually paid a small amount of money as a kind of severance, lol. (It was less than $200 I think, I worked for the federal minimum wage at this store - another sign of how abusive they were, I never once received a raise and worked for minimum wage while working there for over two years.)

Anyway, outside of bad bosses, I think a lot of people in corporate office jobs will leave due to mergers and acquisitions - layoffs are common during those, so people reason they would rather be in control, so they leave rather than face the possibility of a layoff.

Also, acquisitions are often dysfunctional and kill the culture, so sticking around is not desirable anyway. The most talented and desired employees leave because they have the easiest time finding another employer who wants them, so there is “brain drain” or talent flight that happens with each acquisition.

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I left a job because the manager was too intimidating. I couldn’t say no to her and took way too many shifts as a result. I basically had to repeat the whole first semester because of that

Currently where I work, they 100% are leaving because of the manager.

They do both though I think the latter is far more common.

Depends but definitely think that a good manager is a pretty huge incentive to stay. I took a pay cut to escape shitty management/team at a job I enjoyed (in relation to work duties), yet I’ve been fine with having a boring/unfulfilling job simply because I appreciate the management and team. Really the only reason I’d want to leave my job right now is because of the affordability crisis, or if like a dream job came up that paid a liveable wage.

I think they’re both pretty common. Sometimes the work culture is terrible company-wide (a number of places I’ve worked have just felt incredibly disorganized), sometimes it’s just because of your manager (or team). If I was confident it was just my manager, I might try an internal transfer or something first.

Also, loyalty to a company isn’t really rewarded in most countries now. Just look at Google, Microsoft, Amazon, etc. laying off swathes of people every few months.

In my experience people are much more attached to a good manager tham a job. But, good managers are sadly endangered here in the USA where I live. I see things gradually shifting toward job-hopping, because any big company here is cancerous enought to only benefit willing pawns over real people who are willing to tell the truth.

Last time I left a company, it was for more money.

If you think they way, you’re doing it wrong. Always leave for your career advancement.

Don’t let companies lie to you about culture or free pizzas Fridays. It’s just a business transaction to them and you should treat a job the same.