• Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
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        Twitch is really clever about it.

        Because you’re watching a live stream, they know you’re less likely to pause or look away, and then because they’re using HLS, they just literally have the next chunk of video load from their ad servers instead of their video servers.

        The most clever part? This is done at a point before your computer, so you can’t distinguish which is which as to you, it all looks like its coming from the same source.

        Now, perhaps they still give you some information about the stream that they’re in a game of wackamole with block detectors over, maybe for tracking purposes or whatever, but its pretty clever, like dastardly clever but clever none the less.

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          Some call it clever, some call it insidious. I don’t mind though, haven’t been to that shit site since they went mad and showed me the same bullshit, unskipable ad several times in a row, over and over for a week because that’s the only thing they had for my geo location.

          So now I boycott both twitch and that shit company that paid money to annoy me a bit, hit the jackpot and annoyed me massively to the point where I took it personally.

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          could injest the stream, play it back at 97% speed, detect scene changes (% of screen change in a timeframe). When you hit an add, hit spacebar, it realizes that you’re asking it to skip and start dumping the video buffer until the next scene change.

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            That sounds like an awful experience for the end user while relying on the client side for security, which is part of why google has been arguing that you modifying the js on your own fucking computer is “hacking”.

            They’ve been failing so far, but given the state of corruption currently in the US and their persistence, they might just win one of these days.

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          Why doesn’t YouTube do this? I’m glad they don’t but it seems like it would be more effective than what they’ve tried so far

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            They have lots of options to make it harder.

            They could put the commercials directly into the stream and disallow fast-forward/start at time commands.

            They could run drm and change the key/method up so often blockers would need to change on a daily basis.

            They could shrink the content into 1/4 screen and run the add at 3/4

            Competition would take their lunch eventually.

            There’s a balance between keeping your customers happy and making your advertisers happy.

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            I think its simply that its a completely different medium. People dont want to be up to date with a video, and they also aren’t fine with missing a part of the video.

            With a stream, you simply never get the parts that were overtaken with ads.

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              That sounds awful, does the viewer or the streamer get any control over when the ads show? Or could they literally cut out the best part of the stream?

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                The streamer can trigger ads early to time them, but ultimately does have to show ads. They can also decide on whether there are pre-roll ads.

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        In my experience, using Streamlink will still give you an ad break, but it will just be a screen saying it’s an ad break without any actual ads

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      Since about a week, with that setup, I can not open replies to comments anymore. I click the “x replies” and nothing. Google says nothing. Do you randomly have and ideas?

      • Lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Not a Firefox/uBO problem.

        Check your configs. It may also be a setting on the network you’re using. My workplace’s internet has some sort of filtering system in place that happens to also disable YT comments. Pretty lame, but it’s their network. I just use my phone on 5G if I want to read YT comments or watch “18+” videos (not porn - some videos on YT are actually blocked).

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        I have zero desire to comment on youtube, so unfortunatley I do not have any ideas as I never have done it. But I would start by disabling all extensions and then re-enabling them one by one until it breaks. Another way to trouble shoot would be to reset firefox. When ever websites act wierd for me I will take those steps first and one or the other usually solves it for me.

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        No issue here. Do you have any other YouTube extensions that might be conflicting? I am also running Enhancer for Youtube.

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        Pi-hole will block Roku’s homescreen ads. The various streaming apps you may have on your Roku all implement ads their own ways, though. Pi-hole only blocks ads that come from a different domain name, which is why it does not block Youtube ads. Because Youtube serves ads from the same domain as normal content.

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        Dont use it? /S

        I really dont know but depending on your model and OS Im sure there is someone who could help. A Pi-hole might do the trick if you configure it properly.