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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Oh boy, another AI doom video popped up on my feed. Time for more morbid curiosity. The topic is about Big Yud and Nate Soares’s new book (“If You Build It, Everyone Dies”) about how AI is gonna kill us all. I have better things to waste 30 minutes on, so I’m not watching the full video, but the thumbnail (“The 7 Minute War”) kinda suggests what the contents are gonna be.
Thankfully, the description of the video has a Google doc with their sources! I’m sure it’s full of hard evidence from careful experiments that logically demonstrate why their doomsday scenario is something to worry about, not just a random assortment of Anthropic blog posts and completely unrelated events.
Somehow, there are a bunch of sources for the first 2 minutes of the video.
Geoffrey “All radiologists will be replaced in 5 years” Hinton, Nobel laureate in physics, famous for his work in … physics.
This is not the first we’ve seen from MIRI, and I have a feeling it will not be the last. The monster under my bed is a fictional narrative illustrating risks, not prediction.
They are still trying to flog the Anthropic/Apollo Research claims that chatbots will lie to you if you tell them to lie to you.
What does this even demonstrate? Some people can do some stuff with some GPUs? I ate some oatmeal today. Now everyone should be thoroughly convinced of my oatmeal-eating abilities.
I watched for a few seconds around the timestamp, and it seems to be the beginning of their scifi story, I mean, AGI scenario. Yes, if you want to convince people that your scenario is plausible, I’m sure this is the part that you need serious amounts of evidence for. Remember, almost half the sources have timestamps for the first two minutes of the video.
Again, what does this demonstrate? I tried solving P vs NP with a cheeseburger. That didn’t work either. The only purpose of mentioning this is for narrative window dressing, because Math Is For Smart People.
These are the sources for just the first two minutes. After that, they get a bit sparse.
More Anthropic blog posts and system cards? Come on, I can’t sneer the same thing twice in one post!
I don’t know what this has to do with supporting the validity of their AI doomsday scenario, but kudos to them for showing why cryptocurrency is also stupid, I guess.
More? I guess this is hard evidence for showing why cryptocurrency is stupid. I still don’t understand how this demonstrates that AI is scary.
I knew MIRI would be back. It’s illustrative, not predictive! Please don’t blame us if none of this even remotely happens! But it’s based on years of technical research. An entire graduate student’s worth of output in a decade.
The link they give references … another one of their own videos. You really are not beating the circular reference allegations here. Even if the purported story is somehow accurate, this again demonstrates how cryptocurrency is stupid. At least they use an LLM as a prop this time.
I think Yud is obsessed with this topic in particular. Better than diamondoid bacteria, I guess. Again, the AI just magically comes in and uses this stuff somehow.
Okay, let me be completely serious for this one. What would someone do if they truly believed that their work would lead to a horrible disaster, such as the extinction of humanity? Would they continue to work in the field, let alone make enough contributions to rise to the top? Alright I’m done.
ahem. h5n1 for ferrets was probably made because ferrets turn out to have immune systems similar enough to humans, in that they do get (common strains of) flu and transmit it by sneezing, that is ferrets are good model organisms for flu vaccine development. so if regular ferrets don’t catch h5n1, then you have to modify either virus or ferret because otherwise it won’t work. it’s not some random virologist deciding to wage biological war against fuzzy noodle critters
assigning a number to it makes it scientific
aside/rant
i wonder to what extent this bullshit works because of people’s fear of math
i wish i could convince people that STEM skills are no different than a law degree, in essence — you’ll meet dipshits that are excellent mathematicians and you’ll meet smart people that are mediocre mathematicians. i suspect it’s because people view mathematical notation as impenetrable (when that just depends on the same shit any technical writing depends on, like the writer’s skill at communicating, the reader’s familiarity and strength with the prerequisite material, etc.)
it’s frustrating, given the number of stupid mathematicians i’ve met
The Oppenheimers we have at home