• notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    edit-2
    6 days ago

    “We took a super safe stance playing grown up protestor against a lady who doesn’t have any power anymore!

    Protest Trump? We can’t do that, he has real power, he might fight back! Gestapo squads currently kidnapping brown people? la la la la I can’t hear you! We’re helping!”

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      6 days ago

      This conference is Kamala doing a book tour where she blames anti genocide protesters for her loss to orange man instead of her support for genocide.

      • notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        5 days ago

        And it’s adorable you think it’s super important right now to ruffle her feathers while literal Gestapo roam the streets kidnapping brown people.

        It really does put a fine point on how it’s more important for you to feel right then to do right.

        • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 days ago

          Yes people must correct her genocide propaganda when she tries to blame anti genocide protesters for Trump winning. This is incredibly important so people know where to place the blame and not run genocide candidates like her.

          • CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            5 days ago

            It is so gaslighty to try to blame her for Trumps win. He won because people chose either to vote for him or not vote because she wasn’t ’good enough’. If you think Trump is anti-genocide you’re delusional.

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              5 days ago

              The left tried to warn you that she would lose if she kept supporting genocide. No centrist listened because they didn’t want to stop supporting genocide.

              If you think Trump is anti-genocide you’re delusional.

              We know. It’s why centrists were so ok with losing to him.

              • CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                5 days ago

                So the left chose not to vote thereby allowing Trump to win. I won’t argue that what happened in Gaza is a genocide and she failed to recognize it as such publicly but not voting was a vote. So those left voters are largely responsible for him winning. Not her one stance which was not as bad as his stance on the same issue. Remember he wants beachfront resorts. And his other platforms are horrific. Democracy is about choice. They chose not to vote knowing what would happen. Now they’re trying to gaslight ‘us’ into believing it was her fault. P.S. I’m not ‘American’ so I see this through a different lens.

                • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  5 days ago

                  Betray people long enough and they won’t vote for you. Add genocide support into the mix and just expect unquestioning fealty and they’re even less likely to. Progressives tried to warn centrists and were greeted with dismissal and abuse.

                  Democracy is about choice.

                  Hobson’s choice.

                  • CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    5 days ago

                    US does have an issue with your two party system. But not voting is also a choice. I see you mentioned you voted for her. I’ve done the same in my country. The lesser of ‘two’ evils. In fact, many people did the same in our recent election to get the right person in even though we have multiple options which can usually shift the tide. In our case we collectively recognized that he was infinitely better than the main alternative. Your country did not do this but I applaud you for not being one of the voters (or non-voters) that I hold directly responsible for Trump getting a second term. I’m just astonished that now these non-voters are trying to pin the blame on her. The woman. So not surprising to be honest.

                • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  5 days ago

                  Voting for her? Because that’s what I did. I couldn’t force centrists to stop supporting genocide.

            • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              5 days ago

              Trump claimed to be anti genocide and invited Palestinian voices. Which is more than Kamala ever did.

              Even the Republican grifter knew how unpopular supporting genocide was to the point he did not want to risk it for his campaign.

              • CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                5 days ago

                Did he claim that it was a genocide? I didn’t watch closely enough to get that sound bite but I do remember him talking about turning Gaza into a resort area. I cannot find ANY information where Trump stated a genocide was occurring in Gaza. Only the contrary.

                  • CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    5 days ago

                    And you don’t (know what he said). You state ‘Trump claimed to be anti-genocide and invited Palestinian voices’ when during his campaign did he do that? What goal post did I move???