• CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    US does have an issue with your two party system. But not voting is also a choice. I see you mentioned you voted for her. I’ve done the same in my country. The lesser of ‘two’ evils. In fact, many people did the same in our recent election to get the right person in even though we have multiple options which can usually shift the tide. In our case we collectively recognized that he was infinitely better than the main alternative. Your country did not do this but I applaud you for not being one of the voters (or non-voters) that I hold directly responsible for Trump getting a second term. I’m just astonished that now these non-voters are trying to pin the blame on her. The woman. So not surprising to be honest.

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      6 days ago

      She chose to ignore and alienate her base.

      She supported genocide and that’s all you need to carry water for her.

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        5 days ago

        So does Trump (support genocide). But he’s also supporting a lot of other causes I strongly disagree with so, yes, I would carry water for her. This guy is zero sum.

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          5 days ago

          But he’s also supporting a lot of other causes I strongly disagree with

          So he supports genocide but also supports causes you don’t like.

          Harris isn’t running anymore. She no longer needs your undying support. But genocide is still ongoing and you can’t say one of its champions was wrong to support it, so you keep carrying water.

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            5 days ago

            Im not American. I don’t really care about either of them but it’s incredibly gaslighty as I previously stated for left wing American voters to blame her for the rise of Trump. Further, she was running while she was VP. She couldn’t very well run a campaign that was opposite to the ‘current’ regimes stance on gaza could she? We’ll never know if she would have changed her position once it was her in office. Also, there are other genocides and atrocities currently occurring that get zero attention from press or western governments. Again, I applaud you for voting against Trump.

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              5 days ago

              I don’t really care about either of them but it’s incredibly gaslighty as I previously stated for left wing American voters to blame her for the rise of Trump.

              Yes, she supported genocide just like you do, so she can do no wrong. She can only be failed by the stupid voters who don’t love genocide like you want them to.

              Further, she was running while she was VP. She couldn’t very well run a campaign that was opposite to the ‘current’ regimes stance on gaza could she?

              She was permitted to differ from biden. She ran to his right. She said she was going to appoint a republican to her cabinet, something even biden wasn’t complicit enough to do. But she couldn’t differ on the only issue that centrists will never abandon: their unconditional support for genocide.

              Also, there are other genocides and atrocities currently occurring that get zero attention from press or western governments.

              The US wasn’t selling weapons for those. I’m sure you’re endlessly disappointed.

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                5 days ago

                Just saw another post asking if Lemmy was worse than Reddit in terms of left wing nut jobs declaring that I love genocide because I won’t be gaslit into blaming her for Trump winning (who also loves this genocide). Lemmy is showing to be full of worse personalities than on reddit. . America has so much blood on its hands and yet you throw your vitriol at me. Not in the least surprised. The entitlement.

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                  5 days ago

                  I won’t be gaslit into blaming her for Trump winning (who also loves this genocide).

                  It’s not gaslighting to correctly point out that genocide is unpopular. harris lost because she hitched her wagon to netanyahu. The people for whom genocide is a winning issue were voting for trump, not marginally second worst to trump.

                  Lemmy is showing to be full of worse personalities than on reddit.

                  You’re here, yes.

                  America has so much blood on its hands and yet you throw your vitriol at me.

                  You keep carrying water for harris because she, like you, supports genocide.

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                    5 days ago

                    Fair point. I think I’ll take my leave from this cesspool of gaslighting Americans who fund genocides all over the place. Enjoy your circle jerk.