It is so gaslighty to try to blame her for Trumps win. He won because people chose either to vote for him or not vote because she wasn’t ’good enough’. If you think Trump is anti-genocide you’re delusional.
The left tried to warn you that she would lose if she kept supporting genocide. No centrist listened because they didn’t want to stop supporting genocide.
If you think Trump is anti-genocide you’re delusional.
We know. It’s why centrists were so ok with losing to him.
So the left chose not to vote thereby allowing Trump to win. I won’t argue that what happened in Gaza is a genocide and she failed to recognize it as such publicly but not voting was a vote. So those left voters are largely responsible for him winning. Not her one stance which was not as bad as his stance on the same issue. Remember he wants beachfront resorts. And his other platforms are horrific. Democracy is about choice. They chose not to vote knowing what would happen. Now they’re trying to gaslight ‘us’ into believing it was her fault. P.S. I’m not ‘American’ so I see this through a different lens.
Betray people long enough and they won’t vote for you. Add genocide support into the mix and just expect unquestioning fealty and they’re even less likely to. Progressives tried to warn centrists and were greeted with dismissal and abuse.
US does have an issue with your two party system. But not voting is also a choice. I see you mentioned you voted for her. I’ve done the same in my country. The lesser of ‘two’ evils. In fact, many people did the same in our recent election to get the right person in even though we have multiple options which can usually shift the tide. In our case we collectively recognized that he was infinitely better than the main alternative. Your country did not do this but I applaud you for not being one of the voters (or non-voters) that I hold directly responsible for Trump getting a second term. I’m just astonished that now these non-voters are trying to pin the blame on her. The woman. So not surprising to be honest.
So does Trump (support genocide). But he’s also supporting a lot of other causes I strongly disagree with so, yes, I would carry water for her. This guy is zero sum.
But he’s also supporting a lot of other causes I strongly disagree with
So he supports genocide but also supports causes you don’t like.
Harris isn’t running anymore. She no longer needs your undying support. But genocide is still ongoing and you can’t say one of its champions was wrong to support it, so you keep carrying water.
Im not American. I don’t really care about either of them but it’s incredibly gaslighty as I previously stated for left wing American voters to blame her for the rise of Trump. Further, she was running while she was VP. She couldn’t very well run a campaign that was opposite to the ‘current’ regimes stance on gaza could she? We’ll never know if she would have changed her position once it was her in office. Also, there are other genocides and atrocities currently occurring that get zero attention from press or western governments. Again, I applaud you for voting against Trump.
Did he claim that it was a genocide? I didn’t watch closely enough to get that sound bite but I do remember him talking about turning Gaza into a resort area. I cannot find ANY information where Trump stated a genocide was occurring in Gaza. Only the contrary.
And you don’t (know what he said). You state ‘Trump claimed to be anti-genocide and invited Palestinian voices’ when during his campaign did he do that?
What goal post did I move???
It is so gaslighty to try to blame her for Trumps win. He won because people chose either to vote for him or not vote because she wasn’t ’good enough’. If you think Trump is anti-genocide you’re delusional.
The left tried to warn you that she would lose if she kept supporting genocide. No centrist listened because they didn’t want to stop supporting genocide.
We know. It’s why centrists were so ok with losing to him.
So the left chose not to vote thereby allowing Trump to win. I won’t argue that what happened in Gaza is a genocide and she failed to recognize it as such publicly but not voting was a vote. So those left voters are largely responsible for him winning. Not her one stance which was not as bad as his stance on the same issue. Remember he wants beachfront resorts. And his other platforms are horrific. Democracy is about choice. They chose not to vote knowing what would happen. Now they’re trying to gaslight ‘us’ into believing it was her fault. P.S. I’m not ‘American’ so I see this through a different lens.
Betray people long enough and they won’t vote for you. Add genocide support into the mix and just expect unquestioning fealty and they’re even less likely to. Progressives tried to warn centrists and were greeted with dismissal and abuse.
Hobson’s choice.
US does have an issue with your two party system. But not voting is also a choice. I see you mentioned you voted for her. I’ve done the same in my country. The lesser of ‘two’ evils. In fact, many people did the same in our recent election to get the right person in even though we have multiple options which can usually shift the tide. In our case we collectively recognized that he was infinitely better than the main alternative. Your country did not do this but I applaud you for not being one of the voters (or non-voters) that I hold directly responsible for Trump getting a second term. I’m just astonished that now these non-voters are trying to pin the blame on her. The woman. So not surprising to be honest.
She chose to ignore and alienate her base.
She supported genocide and that’s all you need to carry water for her.
So does Trump (support genocide). But he’s also supporting a lot of other causes I strongly disagree with so, yes, I would carry water for her. This guy is zero sum.
So he supports genocide but also supports causes you don’t like.
Harris isn’t running anymore. She no longer needs your undying support. But genocide is still ongoing and you can’t say one of its champions was wrong to support it, so you keep carrying water.
Im not American. I don’t really care about either of them but it’s incredibly gaslighty as I previously stated for left wing American voters to blame her for the rise of Trump. Further, she was running while she was VP. She couldn’t very well run a campaign that was opposite to the ‘current’ regimes stance on gaza could she? We’ll never know if she would have changed her position once it was her in office. Also, there are other genocides and atrocities currently occurring that get zero attention from press or western governments. Again, I applaud you for voting against Trump.
I hope you enjoy the effects of your clearly well-thought-out strategy.
Voting for her? Because that’s what I did. I couldn’t force centrists to stop supporting genocide.
Trump claimed to be anti genocide and invited Palestinian voices. Which is more than Kamala ever did.
Even the Republican grifter knew how unpopular supporting genocide was to the point he did not want to risk it for his campaign.
Did he claim that it was a genocide? I didn’t watch closely enough to get that sound bite but I do remember him talking about turning Gaza into a resort area. I cannot find ANY information where Trump stated a genocide was occurring in Gaza. Only the contrary.
Look at you trying to make up abitrary demands to move the goalpost. How cute. You know what Trump said already it seems.
And you don’t (know what he said). You state ‘Trump claimed to be anti-genocide and invited Palestinian voices’ when during his campaign did he do that? What goal post did I move???