If you wanna go pick a fight. Keep the instance name out of your damn mouth. Fight your own battles.
for every historical illiterate that wanders in here: the French literally had a military alliance with the USSR in 1935 that they abandoned in favor of pro-German appeasement. The Western Allies are the ones who killed a collective security strategy against the Nazis!
France: cancels alliance with USSR in 1935 to appease nazis
USSR: begs everyone to ally against the nazis
West: goes “no” and also “hey Hitler, want some Sudetenland? It’s yours!”
USSR after literal years of failed diplomatic overtures because, surprise, the capitalist West that literally funded the Whites preferred fascists to them: well I guess we’ll have a nonaggression pact with the fascists
Dumbass western “anarchists” who are 1 step from Sieg Heiling: OMG HOW COULD THE USSR COLLUDE WITH THE FASCISTS
It’s thanks to Stalin you’re not speaking German today, nerds
It’s also worth considering that Poland too, was “allied with the nazi’s” when it invaded and occupied parts of the Czech republic in concert with the nazi offensive. However, I’d never go as far as to say something like “Poland weren’t the victims in WW2” or that “the USSR halting polonization by liberating polish occupied belarus was a good thing” to go out of my way specifically to “bait anarkiddies” – Unless I wanted to simply encourage leftist infighting, of course?
I’ll be honest. dbzer0 confuses me as an instance. I’d prefer to consider them friends - fellow travellers trying to eventually make our way to the same end point - but seeing things like the admins condoning “genocide denial as bait for tankies” or “transphobia is fine on dbzer0 as long as the target is a tankie” is pretty wild.
Because they are trying to make it about db0 being a tankies instance which is… Ridiculous from the start.
A certain well known troll and a few overzealous .world users/mods/mega posters believe it to be true (aka, really want it to be true) and will do stupid things like this to make it seem true.
Idiots are idiots, I’d just report and move on.
The post was luckily very quickly removed
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Pls just block the instance instead. No need to make Lemmy an unpleasant place.
yes, please save both us and yourself (not you, but any haters reading this) the trouble. Or don’t. bears like tussling playfully.
trolling accomplishes absolutely nothing and just makes community spaces worse to be in. the age old addage of how to make the internet work has been “don’t feed the trolls. block and report”
i’m taking it on good faith right now that you mean well and just don’t have experience on how to be an effective communicator. always remember, the right divides, the left unites. even if you think you’re trolling for lefty causes, by engaging in that form of rhetoric you are empowering the right wing opression. this isn’t me saying “when they go low we go high” mind you. this is about the kinds of down in the mud we should be doing. we should be disempowering their demogogues (the president is literally so fragile he has to say every man he meets is openly sobbing when it happens), not harassing individuals
What was your thought process with this post?
Reads like you can’t seem to decide on a tone perspective/voice or bit here.
I believe she was referencing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. It’s a common talking point to use to equate the Soviets with the Nazis.
I get the individual points they just don’t connect well, its not tied together with any sort of style.
The majority of Jewish people slaughtered during WW2 by the Nazis (and their myriad European helper-elves) were Soviet citizens murdered on captured Soviet territory.
Yeah that’s why I didn’t understand the sentence. It now appears that what was subjectively obvious is not universally obvious.
But was it soviet territory before the Nazis took it, or only after the soviets drove the nazi-menace back? Because Poland and most other later soviet countries were independent before, so all the jews killed in Poland, Czechia, Hungary, etc. were NOT soviet citizens.
Poland, Czechia, Hungary,
Which part of Soviet is so hard to understand? The peoples of those countries were never Soviet citizens.
Again… the majority of Jewish people murdered during WW2 by the Nazis were Soviet citizens who were murdered on Soviet territory captured by the Wehrmacht.
The idea that the Holocaust only happened in death camps like Auschwitz is a myth created by western media - which, for reasons that should be obvious to any leftist, never had much of a problem with the Nazis slaughtering millions of people in Ukraine or on the Russian steppes.
The largest part of the Holocaust looked like Babi Yar - not Auschwitz.
Thanks for educating me.
Fucking dumbass doesn’t even know that 3 million Soviet POWs died in Nazi camps, second only to Jews in number killed. Also, who took Berlin as Hitler offed himself while cowering in his bunker as tanks rolled in overhead? Certainly not westerners.
I’m not even against tankie-baiting but this is so fucking poorly written and feels like the writer couldnt decide on a point.
Feel free to bait me. Ragebait, clickbait. I’m easily manipulatable
You have to be either an authoritarian or just a massive sub to like trains. Only horses offer true freedom; a form of transit that lives and has its own will, the ability to say no. One that requires nurturing. One that exists outside of your need to be moved, and can be a companion, even comrade, instead of a mere means of locomotion.
Now this is a GOOD badpost. Let’s count the groups ragebaited.
- Trains are authoritarian.
- MLs and also many anarchists. Urbanists in general.
- Trains are also for subs because they don’t offer freedom.
- BDSM enjoyers.
- Horses as vehicles = animal liberation.
- Vegans.
It has the genuine energy of some sort of eco-fascist crank.
bows
- Trains are authoritarian.
I will never be swayed by the bloated and grotesque horse while the noble, servile, beautiful donkey still exists
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tagline here 
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Hope you’ve added this to the taglines
maybe
7·6 days agoYou should add “smug” as a keyword to it.
Thank you. It was spontaneous and everything I’d hoped it could be.
I’ll add it tomorrow probably when I get back on my desktop
Saved :3
Animal Liberation
Anti-car
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I vibe coded an app that interprets dreams for you (it asks chatgpt)
Just got through my second funding round!
Well shit sign me up! Do you want my medical data?
Kinda gross that a genocide denier is manipulating young people to also deny genocide on the db0 matrix.
I have seen a few of these from different users on dbzero to hexbear. Exact same format too
Probably just the same person then
Yeah I figured. Just wanted to highlight since y’all are talking about
I was being a fucking asshole, and I acknowledge that
love that theme. is that gruvbox?
Yes it is! I love how often this comes up. And how often people also recognise it themselves. You’ve got a good eye
Edit. I recognise your name from somewhere. Either the weird conspiracy theorists post or on traditional art.
I use it on VSCode and Obsidian both. It’s my goto theme.
Attention-seeking behaviors are typically extreme, unhealthy, and dramatic attempts to receive external validation, recognition, and attention. In some cases, this behavior indicates other mental health issues
oh hey!
(the worst part is my mental health comm is over here 😬 and if this all goes up in flames I gotta find another instance that has a wiki 😮💨)
I don’t think you have to move instances, but its worth mentioning that all piefed instances have wikis.
I’ve heard a few negative things about our instance, but they didn’t vibe with what I read the instance was about, so it didn’t bother me much. (They said we were known to be misogynistic. True, people like that may exist everywhere, but I didn’t see it in the mission statement.)
I still don’t fully understand what “tankie” means. I’ve heard it means authoritarian (as in, you’re like the tanks rolling over people’s rights) but I’ve also heard it can be sarcastic. So I ignore that in any context since it seems there isn’t a clear consensus on the term yet.
I looked at this one and I looked at Shit Just Works and this one appealed to me a little more.
I feel like there are bad people everywhere. I think we’re expecting too much when we say “Lemmy is better than Reddit.” Lemmy is just built different. We’re getting a lot of Reddit expats (I’m one of them) and switching communities does not change a person. I still field rude comments every day. (Yes, I’m aware if you see assholes everywhere you go, maybe you are the asshole.) I ignore them. If they’re egregious, I also downvote them. I have no desire to engage with rude people anonymously on the Internet. I try to be civil but hey, nobody’s perfect. I just try to be better… and nothing good comes with engaging with hostility.
I don’t think it matters that much what instance you’re on. I think a lot of people will join .world/.ml because they’re common and that’s fine, so they probably get a lot of jerks, but they probably also get a lot of intelligent and thoughtful people as well.
I dunno, I’m still learning.
As for “tankie,” it’s essentially a pejorative for “communist.” I recommend the Prolewiki article on “Tankies,” as well as Nia Frome’s essay “Tankies.”
Originally it was a label Trotskyites used to criticize Stalinists (aka ML’s). A bit of inter-communist sectarianism. The specific line was something like “they support where ever the soviet tanks roll”. Specifically it came from the suppression of the Hungarian revolts. But it more broadly meant having uncritical support for the USSR and everything it does.
But now we’re 30+ years after the fall of the USSR, so its definition has spiraled into any westerner who opposes western imperialism. For example: an anarchist might use it to criticize an ML outright cheering Russian victories in Ukraine. In turn, a liberal will use it to criticize the same anarchist for opposing NATO.
In turn, a liberal will use it to criticize the same anarchist for opposing NATO
This used to happen to me all the time. I would start talking about imperialism and I’d get called a tankie and told to fuck off. No longer consider myself an anarchist but still.
For example: an anarchist might use it to criticize an ML outright cheering Russian victories in Ukraine. In turn, a liberal will use it to criticize the same anarchist for opposing NATO.
This happens all the time and its infruiating
I still don’t fully understand what “tankie” means. I’ve heard it means authoritarian (as in, you’re like the tanks rolling over people’s rights) but I’ve also heard it can be sarcastic. So I ignore that in any context since it seems there isn’t a clear consensus on the term yet.
In 2025, it just means “person who opposes the West.” It doesn’t even mean authoritarian or fake socialist anymore. India is technically a socialist secular democratic republic going by the Indian Constitution, but when’s the last time you’ve heard people call Modi supporters tankies? Why do Assad supporters get called tankies while Modi supporters don’t? The only meaningful difference between the two is that Assad and his supporters oppose the West while Modi and his supporters don’t.
Anytime I hear someone call db0 sexist I open their account and see the insanity that they spout.
I think Lemmy culture is MUCH better than reddit. And I mean MUUUUUCH. Just as part of who we are. And the society is doing a good Jon of upholding those ideals.
And the fact that you made this comment should be proof of the cultural difference bw the two.
Better than reddit is a pretty low bar. I havent lived anywhere low enough to reach it without a shovel in years now.
Lemmy does have a misogyny problem. Haven’t tracked per server.
I’m a man. So can’t conclusively comment on it.
The sexism I’ve seen is so over the top, as the person talking about tankies here is. That it feels like obvious trolls or sarcasm.
I’m sure its there. But i would not have said Lemmy has a sexism problem had someone asked me.
But then again. No direct experience for me.
As an enby who’s played around with both masculine and feminine pronouns on the lemmyverse, there’s a more subtle strain as well. People assuming you don’t know things or explaining things to you excessively. Getting more DMs. And a kind of centering of cis men that still happens even in more feminist and trans-inclusive spaces within threads that cover certain topics.
I don’t doubt this at all.
But I think it’s just lemmy being a reflection of real life rather than something that developed as part of lemmy culture, as well as lemmy culture inheriting from 
, where that kind of behavior is endemic.Ah. Alright. Didn’t know about that.
Thank you, but I was on Reddit making similar comments. I get it, though. Being decentralised means if a community on one instance goes sour, people can recreate that community on another instance (or it’s already been made) and people can flock to the one they think is run better — or ultimately suits their needs. Problem is, a lot of people don’t really care about moderator abuses as long as it isn’t being done to them. Like when the Reddit admin accused an app developer of blackmail and the app developer came with the receipts (he recorded the phone call), a lot of people did back him, but after a few weeks they were still right where they were and people even started turning against the app developer. I’m not sure a federated community would do much better. I hope I’m wrong about that. Even with another federated community, everyone you know is already on the bad one and the good one doesn’t have enough of the good people. “Be the change you want to see in the world” and all that but it’s still a chicken/egg situation.
The term tankie refers to defenders of the use of tanks during the soviet invasion of Hungary in 1956 to quell the anti-Soviet revolution taking place.
It’s a pejorative term aimed at authoritarian Communists and pro-marxist-leninists by anti-authoritarian leftists.
boy oh boy this thread sure turned into a tankie circle Jerk quickly
That was my initial understanding (though, not so precise), but I’ve seen it disputed and I don’t like to be vague with language if I can help it. It just sounds like a cute way to say fascist.
It’s a silly term we use for Marxist-Leninists and their fellow travellers because we never bothered to really come up with a less silly term for that part of the left that holds that brutally repressing the working class into automaton-like obedience will (somehow) result in communism descending from the heavens like the Second Coming… it’s an oversight on our part, I’m afraid.
Unfortunately, liberals have finally learnt of the term… so now they call everybody that isn’t a liberal or a fascist “tankie,” too.
Ironically enough, the term tankie was first coined by Marxist-Leninists themselves.
Ironically enough, the term tankie was first coined by Marxist-Leninists themselves.
And it was never a useful term. Which should have been obvious, because it was invented by British communists who are more in the habit of arguing and splitting into 14 different progressively more transphobic groups than anything else (somewhat joking here, but the British left does have a history of splitting and of infiltration).
Divergence of the minds is to be expected anywhere and everywhere. And some will hold a different view solely to be different. Where people end up isn’t always an informed decision or even a choice at times, so there will always be someone who “doesn’t belong”.
It’s important to remember that the group and the individual shouldn’t be conflated with one another. Anything living is in constant change, whether we recognize it or not and both individuals and groups can and will change over time.
Just as our representatives rarely represent us or our political parties rarely are what they present themselves as, so too does the location from which we make our presence known lack the precision to understand each own’s individual identity.
Tankie comes from when Soviet tanks rolled into Czechoslovakia in -68 IIRC. It was a brutal power move by the Soviet Union to squeeze the freedom out of people there who didn’t want to live under the boot of Russia (which was the cornerstone of the Soviet Union).
People thinking this was not only okay but a good thing got named “Tankies” and today we use that for people being pro authoritarian communism.
Around here they dream up magic communist stuff and rewrites history a lot. So basically “not good people” IMO.
It was actually the Hungarian counter-revolution of 1956, not the Czech counter-revolution of '68. The '56 counter-revolt was legitimately a fascist revolt, led by nationalists that let Nazis out of prisons and sent them towards Jewish people and communist officials, lynching them and marking their doors. The Triumph of Evil goes over that, IIRC, plus the Hungarian nationalists were trained and backed by the CIA and MI6:
As for Prague Spring, it was also a CIA-backed counter-revolt. Sam Marcy writes about this in Czechoslovakia in 1968: The Class Character of the Events, Dubcek wanted to pivot to the IMF and world bank, establish full capitalism, and sell out the working class.
These were necessary interventions in the grand scheme of things, and were deliberately provoked by the west, the CIA and MI6 especially. It was not about “escaping the Russian boot,” and for someone accusing communists of rewriting history it’s odd that you even got the timeline of the origin of the term “tankies” wrong, let alone your interpretation of events.
I love how misspelling “a part of” reversed the meaning.
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