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ICE are cowards at heart. That’s why they were noticeably absent from Compton. They are only brave when they have overwhelming force and firepower. If they tangled with any LA street gangs they wouldn’t survive.
Their new thing is waiting outside of immigration court rooms.
All public buildings have fire extinguishers in accessible locations. If you see a conflagration, use a fire extinguisher to put it out.
A smug line to toss off. But I’m not seeing a line of people ready to confront these thugs physically.
More often than not, they operate in gangs and are quick to call reinforcements. They’re armed, they’re hot-headed, they’re extremely dangerous to be anywhere near, and they have total disdain for criminal retribution.
I see people confronting them, just not on the TV. The revolution will not be televised.
Hey if they actually started dealing with the street gangs, I’d grab some popcorn and watch. From a distance, I don’t even live in the US.
With them deporting and/or murdering a lot of people working low-end jobs… Yeah I don’t think Americans want to do some of those jobs. The folks that have said raising the minimum wage would raise prices for everything are going to find out what happens if you raise the wages making sure there’s no-one who would do the job.
Its genocide on US soil.
We aren’t at steps 6-8, we’re at 9 & 10
The genocide is started and active
1k “missing” prisoners from Alligator Auschwitz is irrefutable proof of this
What’s the recourse for that? Do the surviving relatives of the disappeared sue the government? How much does that cost?
The recourse is to shut the country down or shoot those involved. Take your pick.
In fact, the Trump admin both terms removed the violent criminal focus of the ICE. They explicitly stopped going after specifically violent criminals.
Violent criminals are good for the Trump brand. Ultimately, they would prefer a string of high profile Iryna Zarutska stabbing incidents and Charlie Kirk shootings, because it helps to justify their gestapo tactics and their disregard for any rule of law.
The goal is to ethnically cleanse the United States. But the optics have to be about these endless crime waves that justify squads of masked thugs dragging mothers away by their hair and beating delivery drivers on the street.
Fascists always go after the weak and the poor. They’re just coward pieces of shit.
My mayor, Keith Wilson of Portland, made a great point over the weekend in the midst of Trump’s attack on the city that’s stuck with me.
To paraphrase, since I’ve heard multiple versions of it, “Imagine if instead he sent hundreds of engineers, hundreds of teachers, or hundreds of addiction specialists.”
Trump has no interest in improving America, only in being a strongman dictator.
To paraphrase, since I’ve heard multiple versions of it, “Imagine if instead he sent hundreds of engineers, hundreds of teachers, or hundreds of addiction specialists.”
We treat these professions as a public cost that drags the economy with debt and taxes. By contrast, ICE and the National Guard are always somehow paid for with free money.
There’s never anything in the budget for engineers or teachers or physicians. Only armed thugs.
Trump has no interest in improving America, only in being a strongman dictator.
Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.
The problem is the local yokels outside the city don’t see this as a good point, but as him being a sniveling fool who needs a Real Man like Trump to run his city. And that’s because they have a very different worldview.
Most same people, like us, see being bad or good as something you do, and as such, with proper care and help and education you can do better.
They, on the other hand, see bad and good as something you are, a sort of fundamental birth stat that can never change. That’s why they think these ICE raids are a good thing, that’s why they want prisons to just be wholly punitive, that’s why they’re fine with writing off whole groups. Because those people are Bad, and so they will always do Bad Things, and only naive fools think that Bad People can become Good.
The really troubling part of their worldview, though, is a lot of them seem to think Bad radiates out from these people/groups and infects things around them.
They, on the other hand, see bad and good as something you are, a sort of fundamental birth stat that can never change.
Holy shit. Thank you for this. You have no idea how long I’ve been looking for a more succinct explanation for this whole mess.
It would explain a lot, wouldn’t it?
No matter what a republican does, it’s good. No matter what a democrat does, it’s bad. I’m not even going to get into the whole issue of how democrats are still center-right and there’s no true left in the US (not a politically relevant one, anyway - I know people with opinions exist).
It’s why Trump being on the Epstein list is no big deal - but Biden investing money into, among other things, green energy - which caused more American jobs to be created - was a bad thing.
Yeah, it’s seems the only way they think that stat can change is if you ‘find God’. Because only an all-powerful God can change an inherent stat.
I think that’s also why they so readily believe that you can ‘pray the gay away’. It’s not because they don’t believe being LGBTQ+ isn’t inherently a birth thing; it’s because they already know God can change Bad People to Good People so obviously he can take other ‘Badness’ away too.
They won’t go after the gangs. They might fight back.
It’s too bad there doesn’t seem to be a profit to the cartel gangs to come out and fight the ICE gangs. They’d win if they did.
they are mostly in mexico though, and i heard prices of cocaine dropped because trump pulled most of BORDER police out to fight assist ICE. leading to unabated drug trafficking.
they also have GUNS, are much prone to using it. ice hires very out of shape people on undefended people, not people that will shoot at the moments notice.
#1 way you know they aren’t actually going after “the bad guys”. No shootouts.
These fascists are the actual “bad guys”. They’re unlikely to attack themselves.
There can be more than one set of “bad guys”. And they wouldn’t want to get into a fight with the other groups, because those would fight back unlike common civilians.
And the rest would be fighting the MAGA crowd…
They sent an army after the cartels and Tren. They literally blew up two boats which was complete overkill considering the adversary.
The boat attacks are just manufacturing consent for the upcoming genocidal invasion.
Obviously they continue to validate everything we’ve been saying for the last 25 years. It’s disgusting. And they’ve honestly kind of changed my position on immigration a bit in the sense that in the past, I might have said we should deport hardcore criminals.
Fascists will never solve real problems. They need them to persist to keep exploiting the fear and the scapegoating. They’re never responsible, they only point and blame
They’re never responsible, they only point and blame
Funny you should mention it, the support for far right parties in several European countries collapsed once they get into government. Turns out they are all bark and no human articulation. But it is risky to just let the far right take power and let them make mistakes for everyone to see, as we are seeing right now in America.
the support for far right parties in several European countries collapsed once they get into government.
Can you provide examples?
Finland and Netherlands. I heard the support for the far right in Sweden is also dwindling but I don’t know much about it to say for sure.
if you want to take away people’s rights away you can’t just do a blanket infringement on everyone immediately; there would be too much resistance. you have to start with the most powerless and marginalized. then you can expand step by step.
When you have numeric targets to reach, you aim for easy targets first. Everything that before was just a warning now is an arrest. You are leaving the country at the airport? Wait! You overstayed your visa by one week, you’re under arrest!
They arrested on duty wild fire firefighters
To our eyes int the UK, I think many see this as it is. A completely unlawful horror. A significant minority, and growing, are however buying into overtly blaming migrants, brown, black etc. for anything. My family, friends and community are recieving increasingly open comments for being brown, with specific abusive terms. It is getting ugly.
Nothing good was ever achieved by emulating the US. I would think the UK would be smarter than that.
The UK has had its own racism problem for a long time now (honestly, have they ever NOT had a racism problem? They were slightly less racist than the US though, in that they abolished slavery much earlier). They exited the EU to get rid of all the immigrants. You know, the ones doing all the jobs they didn’t want to do, for less money than they’d want for it.
Indeed, Brexit was the point at which the village idiots felt confident to speak confidently and have since spread that confidence. Trumps confidence is now adding multipliers
Unfortunately, many in the USA do not in fact see it the way it is. If anything his immigration policy is the thin thread holding him up while his tariffs weigh him down, in terms of public support.
Lmao, imagine ICE in a gang shootout.
They are prob banned from doing so as they would risk exposing their weakness.
It’s impossible not to see them as storm troopers in literally every way
Ah, yes, the galaxy’s elite fighting force.
Lmao, imagine ICE in a gang shootout.
Liberal fantasies. This is one way that Biden simply carried the torch for Trump.
There’s some interesting implications here. ICE is well documented as wearing body armor and carrying heavy weaponry. In a planned ambush or head-on attack, an opposing force might be inclined to show up with overwhelming odds and a lot more firepower. It’s classic escalation. It would almost certainly be a lethal firefight.
Now that I think about it, regular folks might be inclined to gang-up if they consider themselves under threat. If they’re not already.
This so much. Imagine growing up around gun violence and poverty. You could easily end up in a gang where you commit a couple of armed robberies and are involved in a couple of murders. The question is, what will this person do when a some wannabe gestapo show up trying to arrest them.
You could easily end up in a gang where you commit a couple of armed robberies and are involved in a couple of murders.
lmao. ok.
I don’t think they were implying that it’s easy for a normal person to become a criminal, but rather that the people who get into gang life are, in a way, toughened by the fact that they grew up around gang violence. They’re beyond fucked mentally by the time they join the gang. These are people who aren’t scared to kill. They may regret their lifestyles, but find it too hard to get out. It’s easier to just keep on doing armed robberies and murders.
Whereas ICE may be fascists, but how many of them have been in deadly firefights before? How many of them heard bullets whizzing by at the age of 3?
I, too, think ICE would pussy out of a fight against actual gangbangers.
Implying that Somali pirates are Bad People who were always destined for lives of crime because you are afraid of perspective
No, no, a little murder is ok, as a treat.
(But only if you are from the valley GangViolencia, otherwise it’s v just sparking assault.)You are very lucky to have never been around an environment where you see and learn these things.
They’re defense is an old 60 year old mother who works 3 jobs has “ties to MS-13”. Only the “bad ones” are being deported. Right? RIiiiiight.
Bunch of fucking cowards, all of them. I hope history remembers them as so.
I hope history forgets them and remembers their acts.
Atrocities*
