I see a lot of comments dismissing the nuanced difference between a magazine and a clip, and I agree that from a linguistic perspective it doesn’t matter…
But it may be relevant here. A clip is used to load a magazine. In the case of the M1 Garand and the new Kel-Tek PR57, the clips are used to load an internal (integral) magazine. This gun uses conventional magazines, and the magazine can be dropped (the ICE agent in the video must have pressed the magazine release button while scrambling for his weapon) while there is still a round in the chamber.
TL;DR he was probably waving around a loaded gun at those people.
One time I was in Walmart and asked if they sold gun magazines, and the guy said “they’re up at the front of the store”, which I thought was weird. He was talking about printed magazines. I was talking about metal things that hold bullets.
After that I just say “clip” even knowing it’s not technically correct.
More info: there was a time when Walmart sold all kinds of gun stuff. I don’t know if they do anymore. I used to buy 500 .22 long rifle bullets for $15.
They still do, at least in Kentucky. That’s where I picked up a case for my first dulcimer. Dulcimers and rifles have similar dimensions, and I needed something quick to protect my new instrument on a long drive home.
AFAIK the only time the doctrine changed (from carrying with a round in the chamber) was after the P320 debacle. I heard some police departments started carrying with an unloaded chamber if they couldn’t switch to something else.
It’s ultimately up to the officer, and there’s no way for me to know, but I get the feeling this guy was running with the +1
I see a lot of comments dismissing the nuanced difference between a magazine and a clip, and I agree that from a linguistic perspective it doesn’t matter…
But it may be relevant here. A clip is used to load a magazine. In the case of the M1 Garand and the new Kel-Tek PR57, the clips are used to load an internal (integral) magazine. This gun uses conventional magazines, and the magazine can be dropped (the ICE agent in the video must have pressed the magazine release button while scrambling for his weapon) while there is still a round in the chamber.
TL;DR he was probably waving around a loaded gun at those people.
One time I was in Walmart and asked if they sold gun magazines, and the guy said “they’re up at the front of the store”, which I thought was weird. He was talking about printed magazines. I was talking about metal things that hold bullets.
After that I just say “clip” even knowing it’s not technically correct.
More info: there was a time when Walmart sold all kinds of gun stuff. I don’t know if they do anymore. I used to buy 500 .22 long rifle bullets for $15.
if you say “clip”, they’ll just send you to the DVD section 😄
They still do, at least in Kentucky. That’s where I picked up a case for my first dulcimer. Dulcimers and rifles have similar dimensions, and I needed something quick to protect my new instrument on a long drive home.
Yes, the Federal blue box.
I’d wager he hadn’t loaded one into the chamber at this point - because you would hope someone this stupid would have hurt himself by now otherwise.
AFAIK the only time the doctrine changed (from carrying with a round in the chamber) was after the P320 debacle. I heard some police departments started carrying with an unloaded chamber if they couldn’t switch to something else.
It’s ultimately up to the officer, and there’s no way for me to know, but I get the feeling this guy was running with the +1
I’d wager he always has 1 in the chamber.