Jordanlund removed a post in [email protected] because I, not even the post author, disagreed with his view of how moderation should work.

For extra pettiness, he removed my comments before removing the whole post.

  • JonsJava@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    7 hours ago

    I’m the top mod of [email protected]

    The OP of this post was an ass, but the original post was corrected.

    I’ve restored that post. I’m also talking with all mods about this whole thing.

    Sorry I didn’t see it sooner. Family medical issues has been my sole focus all week.

    I’ll respond to this comment if I have anything further to say about this incident.

  • Blaze@lazysoci.alEnglish
    8·
    1 day ago

    Seems like it’s time to bring back the moment where JLund power tripped over Canada’s government terminology despite being corrected by several Canadian citizens

    But anyway, his comments in this thread already speak for themselves.

    Edit: people sometimes question why I try to avoid overcentralization on LW. That mod mods both [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected], three of the most active communities on the whole platform.

    • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
      7·
      15 hours ago

      Or the time he said anything on the substack platform (ie only had substack in the footer) meant it was a blog therefore not allowed. See dropsitenews.com.

      Then when asked what it would take to allow it had to keep moving goal posts as users pointed out it was already being done except for the substack footer.

      • custom domain
      • news org with credible journalists
  • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
    162·
    3 days ago

    Jordanlund is a zionist. His modding has been documentated on here extensively.

    He just pushes DNC talking points and bans any dissenting opinions.

    Stop using news and politics communities on Lemmy world.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      91·
      2 days ago

      Really is wild how .world will call out .ml for removing things for their personal political reasons, but does the exact same thing for the DNC and their ilk.

      And if you call it out, its whataboutism.

      • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        51·
        2 days ago

        No but see by criticizing good wholesome liberals instead of (distant thunder and/or musical sting) tankies you’re being childish and distracting from the real issues.

  • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
    331·
    3 days ago

    Well that’s fun that it’s now considered attacking when questioning mod decisions on world. Then again they’ve always been incredibly aggressive that way in their news comm when people don’t go along with their odd decisions

    • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
      23·
      3 days ago

      Yeah, I’m amused jordanlund posted the modlog, as that does not make him look better. I raised the issue with another mod and they called my criticism “belligerent”, which is a wild label to apply to those two comments. There was no response to moderating for “spite”. Apparently he just couldn’t help himself after such withering belligerence.

        • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
          16·
          3 days ago

          My experience is similar to LibertyLizard. A lot of the time they’re just doing regular mod stuff, but every once in a while they go Cartman and just escalate every minor little critique. This is definitely not the first time I’ve noticed them going off the rails for seemingly minor criticism.

          The other mods should be reeling him in when this happens and ideally he should be the one calling them in. I’ve modded before, and we’d go to our fellow mods if we were getting heated. Easier to get the sanity check and if you’re in the right to have a third party step in to do the mod actions. I’m not sure how active they really are though. Since there’s no “message the mods” system I had to go down the mod list to find someone to lodge the complaint with. Only a few of them post to Lemmy regularly.

          • theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            14·
            3 days ago

            Last time I looked at it the Lemmy world mods discord server was just a giant dick sucking contest where they just egg each other on with shit like this, I wouldn’t expect any of them to call each other out.

            When they have an issue with a specific user they will rally around the group to build dislike for that particular user posting screen shots and berating them between themselves.

            I haven’t been on there for 6 months + as I deleted my discord account but I doubt much has changed in that time.

            • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
              18·
              3 days ago

              I was gobsmacked that “I’ll remove it to spite you” didn’t even warrant some bullshit like “we agree that that was an inappropriate thing for a mod to say”, even if they backed him on the strict no image posts stance. That’s really inexcusable, and the very core of the problem.

      • lemonmelon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        311·
        3 days ago

        “Now I’m removing it just to spite you.” is such a clear self-report of mens rea that it borders on satire. The question of whether or not there was a rule infraction to begin with is utterly moot after a statement like that.

        Why even try to rationalize it now? Go ahead and label your actions as PTB in this thread. At this point, it’s probably the most honest move you can make.

        • jordanlund@lemmy.world
          227·
          3 days ago

          They question ANYONES authority. PTB gonna PTB.

          OP had a chance to fix their post, they were told how to fix it, they did.

          Another user, unrelated to the discussion, wanted to get all pissy about it. Tough titty.

          • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            81·
            2 days ago

            how dare rhey question anyone’s authority

            You know, re-reading this, i really feel like its sucking up to the admins at .world because it knows it’s in troooooouuuuuuubbbbbblllleeee

            I say we should all start talking, on a lot of servers, about defederating from .world a lot more than we are. I

            Edit: if this charicature of a reddit mod (sans fedora; credit where due) is the kind of thing they have moderating their flagship communities, is federating with them really a net gain?

          • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            121·
            3 days ago

            You’ve got a funsamental misunderstanding there but you aren’t capable of food faith; only creepy low grade manipulative bullshit thay wears the skin of good faith like a mask and taunts its loved ones.

            So you aren’t worth correcting.

      • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        113·
        3 days ago

        Thats a lovely identity you claim, but show don’t tell.

        Oh shit. You can’t because you’re a frothing leaky asshole.

        You are the #1 case for defederating world.

  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    151·
    3 days ago

    I’m totally a ptb, this is a power trip and i am a bastard and i love it

    -jordanlund

    Edit:

    nuh uh! Nobptb no ptb you’re the ptb!

    -also jordanlund

    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      61·
      2 days ago

      i insultingly and half assedly caved because i know I’m in trouble but cant admit thats what im doing because i must stand for the hierarchy

      But also

      my friends, who are all totally real but you dont know them because they go to another school, are all laughing at you. You should really do what i want anf forget i did anything wrong for fear of being laughed at. By my friends. Who totally exist.

      Shit, i guess they’ve gotta.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        244·
        3 days ago

        Respect is earned, not granted. If you come at me hot I will ruin you and not feel the LEAST bit bad about it. Don’t like it?

        • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          37·
          3 days ago

          If you come at me hot I will ruin you

          That is the corniest, clowniest, cringiest shit I’ve ever fucking read, and it’s absolutely hysterical that you think posting a pic so old it’s actually still called an image macro while modding like a petty child is “ruining” someone.

          You’re displaying an emotional age that’s less than half the age of the image you posted. For your own sake and the sake of everyone around you, please grow up.

            • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
              19·
              3 days ago

              “PTB” has “power” in the name. One cannot be a “PTB” without having power over others, such as mod or admin rights.

              • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                116·
                2 days ago

                This is true, but why is it that the audience in PTB seems to be a bunch of people with modlogs as long as your arm for hateful, homophobic, and transphobic comments across multiple instances and communities?

                That’s not one bad mod. That’s a community of bad actors chafing against people who dare to tell them “No. Not allowed.”

                Response is always the Internet equivalent of the most Karenish Karen who ever Karened. “I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER!”

                • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  131·
                  2 days ago

                  It’s absolutely hilarious that you’re trying to justify your behavior by describing my modlog, which summarizes a total of four encounters over more than two years, as “as long as your arm.”

                  It’s also notably pathetic, and wickedly ironic, since one of those encounters was with a mod who seemed to behave such as yourself, in a particular event involving an incredibly hostile vegan calling everyone cow-fucking rapists. Yeah, apparently that’s okay, but asking them if they’re a false flag because of how absolutely unhelpful that behavior is towards changing people’s minds constitutes incivility.

                  Of course, it doesn’t surprise me you would blindly stand behind any mod action. You honestly seem like the “might makes right” type, regardless of how small your “might” actually is. I’d be willing to bet the only reason you’re here trolling like this is because the limit of your power is entirely within communities I’ve never once participated in.

                  Oh, and also, don’t you dare ever spread such vile fucking lies about me again you piece of shit. I’m going to be directly contacting the administration of your instance about this.

            • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              16·
              3 days ago

              Congrats, you found out that I have a negative reaction to transphobes and other assorted shitheads. Hope you like the company.

              And by the way, another incredibly childish move. Act like an adult, please.

            • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              121·
              3 days ago

              You get that your disingenuous bad faith bullshit where language is about vibes rather than meanings does not work here right?

              No of course not; that would require consciousness.

        • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
          411·
          3 days ago

          Moderation is not a tool in your arsenal to out-escalate an interpersonal dispute. I always thought your actions were fairly reasonable in the past but this one is really not a good look. I would encourage you to take a break and reflect on this interaction.

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            137·
            3 days ago

            Let me explain it like this… If you come at me with a shitty attitude, I have ZERO obligation to treat you with kindness and I absolutey will not. Again, don’t like it, get fucked.

            OTOH, many, many times people have PM’d me and said “Hey, I don’t think this is right, can you look at it?” and I’ll reverse it or politely explain why not.

            For example, someone had a comment removed for “inciting domestic violence”. It was an example of a loaded question, the whole “when did you stop beating your wife?” thing. So I restored it and went to the mod and explained “no, no, that’s not an actual call for domestic abuse, it’s literally an example of a dishonest question” with the supporting link.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

            I think the mod in question just wasn’t familiar with the colloquialism, eh, it happens.

            In the case of Zaktor calling our community rules “bullshit”, yeah, fuck that guy.

            • Kacarott@aussie.zone
              29·
              3 days ago

              What you don’t seem to understand is that responding to negativity with negativity is not what makes this PTB. That’s a fairly normal response. What makes this PTB is deciding to use your mod powers as a means to inflict negativity on people, inflicting punishment on people not because of the rules, but because you feel like it. You explicitly admitted to doing this: “Now I’m removing it just to spite you”.

                • Kacarott@aussie.zone
                  30·
                  3 days ago

                  No, it isn’t. Exactly this mindset is why we call it “power-tripping” because you think the powers given to you to enforce rules are “fair fucking game” to use as a tool to inflict negativity.

                  Respond with negativity if you wish, but leave your mod powers out of it. Invoking mod powers to punish someone who hasn’t broken the rules is definitionally abuse of power.

            • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              13·
              3 days ago

              come at me

              Yeah bro, im’a come at you. It’s time to fucking throw hands (at our keyboards) and settle matters of sacred honor by terms of the ancient code d’ebatemebro

              Fuckin fight me, you, and your second; ben shapiro. I declare the weapon; we shall argue in rhyme! It is yours by terms of the code d’ebatemebro to declare time and location. Unless you’re a coward.

              shitty attitude

              Well im glad you don’t have one of those. An attitude is good by virtue of being yours.

              our

              Whose?

              questioned the rules! How dare they!

              Do i even need to explain this?

        • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
          25·
          3 days ago

          I’ve gotten secondhand embarrassment just by reading that. If your goal was to come up with the cringiest pre-teen internet badass keyboard warrior bullshit possible, then congrats. I think the only way you could have topped that was if you told me your dad was gonna come beat up my dad.

          You will never be anything more than a dried up neckbeard Reddit mod, and you’re going to die alone, unwanted, and unsexed.

        • alaphic@lemmy.world
          291·
          3 days ago

          Ya know, it’s pretty common to see a post on a message board calling out user’s/mod’s shitty behavior, but rare that they actually come to the thread themselves and prove first-hand what a narcissistic little fuckbag they are, so… Good on you for that, I guess, at least

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            129·
            3 days ago

            Hey, you get more with honey, you know? If you come to me with an honest problem I will absolutely be your best friend.

            If you come at me with hostility and anger you are getting it right back.