Jordanlund removed a post in [email protected] because I, not even the post author, disagreed with his view of how moderation should work.

For extra pettiness, he removed my comments before removing the whole post.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
    244·
    3 days ago

    Respect is earned, not granted. If you come at me hot I will ruin you and not feel the LEAST bit bad about it. Don’t like it?

    • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      37·
      3 days ago

      If you come at me hot I will ruin you

      That is the corniest, clowniest, cringiest shit I’ve ever fucking read, and it’s absolutely hysterical that you think posting a pic so old it’s actually still called an image macro while modding like a petty child is “ruining” someone.

      You’re displaying an emotional age that’s less than half the age of the image you posted. For your own sake and the sake of everyone around you, please grow up.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
          19·
          3 days ago

          “PTB” has “power” in the name. One cannot be a “PTB” without having power over others, such as mod or admin rights.

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            116·
            3 days ago

            This is true, but why is it that the audience in PTB seems to be a bunch of people with modlogs as long as your arm for hateful, homophobic, and transphobic comments across multiple instances and communities?

            That’s not one bad mod. That’s a community of bad actors chafing against people who dare to tell them “No. Not allowed.”

            Response is always the Internet equivalent of the most Karenish Karen who ever Karened. “I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER!”

            • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              131·
              2 days ago

              It’s absolutely hilarious that you’re trying to justify your behavior by describing my modlog, which summarizes a total of four encounters over more than two years, as “as long as your arm.”

              It’s also notably pathetic, and wickedly ironic, since one of those encounters was with a mod who seemed to behave such as yourself, in a particular event involving an incredibly hostile vegan calling everyone cow-fucking rapists. Yeah, apparently that’s okay, but asking them if they’re a false flag because of how absolutely unhelpful that behavior is towards changing people’s minds constitutes incivility.

              Of course, it doesn’t surprise me you would blindly stand behind any mod action. You honestly seem like the “might makes right” type, regardless of how small your “might” actually is. I’d be willing to bet the only reason you’re here trolling like this is because the limit of your power is entirely within communities I’ve never once participated in.

              Oh, and also, don’t you dare ever spread such vile fucking lies about me again you piece of shit. I’m going to be directly contacting the administration of your instance about this.

              • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                110·
                2 days ago

                It’s not just you, it’s, well, most everyone in this group.

                Over and over again, calls for violence, encouraging suicide, racism, homophobia, transphobia, and when you get called out on your bullshit it’s “Well I never! How dare you!”

                Funny, modlog says different.

                You want a mod to treat you fairly? Don’t be an asshole.

                You have multiple accounts with removals and bans for cause. It really looks like you just never learn:

                https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=10322262

                https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=521052

                • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  41·
                  2 days ago

                  I went and read @[email protected]’s modlogs and there is not a single incident of racism, homophobia or transphobia, nor any calls for violence or encouraging suicide. It is all either incivility, or being off-topic. In fact, some of what was removed (which was only done for being off-topic) was Directly Defending Trans Women. So why don’t you sit your cis, white, male ass the fluff down and stop trying to weaponise violence against me and my community as a bludgeon against people You Don’t Like!

                  Before you try to reference my Also Only One Page Long modlog, why don’t we all take a look at yours, that actually includes, oop, transphobia:

                  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                    16·
                    2 days ago

                    The link I just provided wasn’t for Ganbat, it was for _cryptagion who has multiple removals for misgendering people. 😜

                • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  8·
                  2 days ago

                  It’s not just you

                  Over and over again, calls for violence, encouraging suicide, racism, homophobia, transphobia, and when you get called out on your bullshit it’s “Well I never! How dare you!”

                  Thank you for confirming you were referring to me when you made those heinous lies before.

                  You want a mod to treat you fairly? Don’t be an asshole.

                  Yeah, not how it works. You know what it’s called when police, government officials, and people with actual power behave like this? A crime. You literally just described abuse of power, the exact thing this community is designed to draw attention to.

                  Funny, modlog says different.

                  You have multiple accounts with removals and bans for cause.

                  If you actually put any thought or action into anything you ever did here, you would know how absolutely bullshit your statements here are.

                  First off, yes, I have multiple accounts. Four, in fact. If you paid attention, you would realize that two of those were on instances that shut down. But no, you have to try and imply that I burned accounts and moved on because of all my bans or whatever. A clear sign of someone with a quality argument founded in facts, right?

                  Let’s go on and look at those “for cause” removals and bans, shall we?

                  I called someone out for being a bigot in a thread about Nexus Mods removing hateful mods (a look at your future?). The entire comment chain was blanket removed.

                  I received a three day ban from Lemmyshitpost almost two years ago for “incivility.” Amongst my removed comments were maybe two I would admit we’re uncivil. Otherwise, they were a comment about a sudden influx of a specific type of comment and voting being similar to nonewnormal brigades from back on Reddit, asking a user of their antagonistic behavior is really intended to influence people, and calling them out for trolling when they informed me they were just there to bitch. I was banned with zero warning, and as far as I can tell, only people on one side of the argument got these blanket removals. Very “for cause,” huh?

                  That’s the entirety of my first account and an entire year on the service. Two events total. After the shutdown of LemmyOnline, I moved on to FMHY. I noticed you didn’t link that one. Maybe it’s because there were no mod actions there? Well, that doesn’t fit your narrative, so let’s ignore it.

                  Let’s move on to this account, shall we?

                  An argument about the privacy of people in dangerous situations that became mildly uncivil. I was of the position that a service collecting phone numbers and releasing them to the police could endanger people already in dangerous situations. Fuck me, right? I’m so evil. The entire thread was removed, not just my comments.

                  I was banned from Lefty Memes for calling out the harmful behavior of a certain mod who was recently also in this community. In the recent instance, another mod stepped in and agreed that, yes, that particular mod has overstepped. I’m proud of that one. The only major mod action I’ve ever had, and it was for a good reason.

                  Four months ago, I had two comments removed. Once again, these comments were made standing against transphobia and bigotry, as opposed to your narrative. This removal wasn’t even an action against me, the bigot made an off-ropic thread which got removed.

                  Two months ago, I had a comment removed where I responded to someone parroting MAGA talking point quite rudely. I made some personal attacks that are about half as bad as the ones you’ve made in this thread. The removal message was simple, “attack the argument, not the person.” I took the advice and made a new comment which is still up.

                  That’s it. That’s everything. You sit here, acting like anyone who’s ever had a single mod action against them is a hateful bigot transphobe, and you cite the smallest matters, even one that prove the exact opposite, as if they’re all you need. You don’t even understand your own argument, but you keep making it.

                  To you, bigotry is clearly nothing but a weapon. Something you can wield against anyone who disagrees with you, screeching “Bigot! Bigot!” any time someone dares to call you out on your bullshit. It doesn’t matter to you. None of it. Bigotry, transphobia , homophobia, it’s all just a flimsy justification for your behavior to you.

                  I’m done engaging with you, your behavior has been nothing but revolting.

                • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  31·
                  2 days ago

                  Oh, who are the homophobic tramsphobes who try to get people to kill themselves and incite violence?

                  And what kind of absolutely vile bastard are you that they have the moral high ground? Fuvk you for making me agree with them.

              • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                114·
                2 days ago

                I mean, look at the modlogs I’ve already linked here. Ban after ban after comment removal after comment removal.

                That’s not the result of bad moderation, those are bad users being shut down for cause.

                I’ll ignore the .ml bans because getting banned by .ml is a lemmy rite of passage, and the “Pleasant Politics” bot seems to go off the rails more times than not, but when you see the same behavior over and over again from multiple users who get together to grouse about moderation?

                You can gather up those complaints and dismiss them with a subtle jerking off motion.

        • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          16·
          3 days ago

          Congrats, you found out that I have a negative reaction to transphobes and other assorted shitheads. Hope you like the company.

          And by the way, another incredibly childish move. Act like an adult, please.

        • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          121·
          3 days ago

          You get that your disingenuous bad faith bullshit where language is about vibes rather than meanings does not work here right?

          No of course not; that would require consciousness.

    • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
      411·
      3 days ago

      Moderation is not a tool in your arsenal to out-escalate an interpersonal dispute. I always thought your actions were fairly reasonable in the past but this one is really not a good look. I would encourage you to take a break and reflect on this interaction.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        137·
        3 days ago

        Let me explain it like this… If you come at me with a shitty attitude, I have ZERO obligation to treat you with kindness and I absolutey will not. Again, don’t like it, get fucked.

        OTOH, many, many times people have PM’d me and said “Hey, I don’t think this is right, can you look at it?” and I’ll reverse it or politely explain why not.

        For example, someone had a comment removed for “inciting domestic violence”. It was an example of a loaded question, the whole “when did you stop beating your wife?” thing. So I restored it and went to the mod and explained “no, no, that’s not an actual call for domestic abuse, it’s literally an example of a dishonest question” with the supporting link.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

        I think the mod in question just wasn’t familiar with the colloquialism, eh, it happens.

        In the case of Zaktor calling our community rules “bullshit”, yeah, fuck that guy.

        • Kacarott@aussie.zone
          29·
          3 days ago

          What you don’t seem to understand is that responding to negativity with negativity is not what makes this PTB. That’s a fairly normal response. What makes this PTB is deciding to use your mod powers as a means to inflict negativity on people, inflicting punishment on people not because of the rules, but because you feel like it. You explicitly admitted to doing this: “Now I’m removing it just to spite you”.

            • Kacarott@aussie.zone
              30·
              3 days ago

              No, it isn’t. Exactly this mindset is why we call it “power-tripping” because you think the powers given to you to enforce rules are “fair fucking game” to use as a tool to inflict negativity.

              Respond with negativity if you wish, but leave your mod powers out of it. Invoking mod powers to punish someone who hasn’t broken the rules is definitionally abuse of power.

              • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                115·
                3 days ago

                Pretty much, you attack me, I’m not going to be a meek little sheep and let you assholes say what you want unchallenged.

                • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  8·
                  2 days ago

                  attack me

                  Youve read my challenge by the code d’ebatemebro. If you wish to show that you are not a coward, know that i am in southern california. Choose a location and time, or be silent on matters of implied ‘honor’.

                  not going yo (…) let you assholes say what you want

                  By silencing and banning it. Fuck i hope you’re never in a position of power.

                  unchallenged

                  Funny you should use that word, with a challenge already issued, and no response yet given. Almost like youre not even all talk.

                  Edit: if you’re still in portland i think i can get a direct train or a ride with a friend who semi-regularly makes that trip. Or maybe a boat. I don’t mean to choose the venue for you, of course, only saying you don’t have to go far.

        • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          13·
          3 days ago

          come at me

          Yeah bro, im’a come at you. It’s time to fucking throw hands (at our keyboards) and settle matters of sacred honor by terms of the ancient code d’ebatemebro

          Fuckin fight me, you, and your second; ben shapiro. I declare the weapon; we shall argue in rhyme! It is yours by terms of the code d’ebatemebro to declare time and location. Unless you’re a coward.

          shitty attitude

          Well im glad you don’t have one of those. An attitude is good by virtue of being yours.

          our

          Whose?

          questioned the rules! How dare they!

          Do i even need to explain this?

    • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
      25·
      3 days ago

      I’ve gotten secondhand embarrassment just by reading that. If your goal was to come up with the cringiest pre-teen internet badass keyboard warrior bullshit possible, then congrats. I think the only way you could have topped that was if you told me your dad was gonna come beat up my dad.

      You will never be anything more than a dried up neckbeard Reddit mod, and you’re going to die alone, unwanted, and unsexed.

    • alaphic@lemmy.world
      291·
      3 days ago

      Ya know, it’s pretty common to see a post on a message board calling out user’s/mod’s shitty behavior, but rare that they actually come to the thread themselves and prove first-hand what a narcissistic little fuckbag they are, so… Good on you for that, I guess, at least

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        129·
        3 days ago

        Hey, you get more with honey, you know? If you come to me with an honest problem I will absolutely be your best friend.

        If you come at me with hostility and anger you are getting it right back.