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This is weirdly almost a progressive mindset but somehow seems to miss the point and make it about blaming the victim.
“The problem is that the job doesn’t pay enough!”
“Yes, exactly!”
“So that lazy POOR should’ve gotten a better one!”
“???”
It’s amazing how conservatives miss the point so reliably. I imagine it’s intentional for Bench Appearo, but many others are probably just genuinely that blinkered in their thinking.
Seriously, so by Ben’s argument, the best thing for poor people to do is either 1. Organize into a labor union to negotiate better wages, or 2. Use violence against the rich as a valid tactic to improve your wages.
But conservatives HATE those two little tricks…
His advice is technically correct, but very vague & not super helpful. He says you need to:
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Explore your talents, skills, strengths, etc. Identify them.
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Find an outlet or a need in society that plays to your strengths, skills.
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Make it pay a lot of money.
Technically not wrong. That’s all easier said than done, and it can be hard landing a job that really pays.
Hard to do all those things without support. Student loans for example would allow someone to survive without a low wage job while developing more valuable skills.
What’s the conservative position on those again? Checks notes… well fuck you too!
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Find out what poor-paying job that poor person holds. Now ask yourself, “if everyone with this job were to vacate, how would that affect me?”
See? See how you can still be selfish but slightly less stupid at the same time?
It allows them to feel an increased agency
Ben Shapiro is big on taking personal responsibility for everything. Your life, your fault. Essentially.
It’s interesting when he talks about his family background, very solidly middle class & it involved his dad playing piano at hotels, clubs for tips? Between that & his mother I guess it was enough to pay the bills.
Because they grew up during a time when you could do that, and then pulled the ladder up behind them.
My step dad bought a farm and raced Ford Broncos for fun doing odds jobs out in a farming community. You’d be lucky to have a roof over your head and 3 meals a day doing odd jobs now.
If only his sister leveraged her massive milkers in some way on OnlyFans, their entire family’s wealth would elevate even higher than what the Russians are currently paying him to spread their propaganda. /s
Can we not with the sexism? Yes she’s a peice of shit but sexualizing her existence is a very sexist thing to do
Ah shit forgot the /s, it was a bad sexist joke, please accept my apologies.
It’s basically how I feel about people that complain about taxes making it so they get paid less money. Take it up with your fucking boss.
“Benjamin Aaron Shapiro was born on January 15, 1984, in Los Angeles, California, … His parents both worked in Hollywood. His mother was a TV company executive, and his father, David Shapiro, worked as a composer.[3]”
If you were not born to rich parents, it is a you problem. Die and reincarnate you silly.
See, it’s that simple!
What an asshole with zero understanding of what life is actually like for people.
He knows. He’s just a disingenuous, grifting piece of shit.
Why does America breed so many shit cunts?
Because we didn’t punish the Confederate traitors hard enough.
Because Biden didn’t round up Trump and all of his henchmen immediately after being sworn in, and ship them to Gitmo for extensive interrogation about their treason with Russia, and corruption.
USA has always been scared of applying real consequences for fear of losing popular support. Jefferson and Adams knew slavery was wrong. Adams knew it was wrong and abhorred it. But couldn’t do anything because of that reason and the need unite the States of a new nation. Same after the Civil War, healing a fractured nation and all that. Even leading to the Civil War there were Missouri and 1850 Compromises. And it goes on and on. United States of Compromise.
But that would have been lead to even more consequences from the donors, who pretty much treated the democrats as useful idiots at best.
That too
This is absolutely a cultural issue which promotes and encourages extreme individualism. It’s the land of opportunity, which has been translated into “if you aren’t successful, it’s your own fault for not trying hard enough”. It’s baked into every corner of the mentality. It’s, “Own a gun to protect yourself”, not, “fund initiatives to reduce crime and provide for all”.
Even some of the most well educated people within this culture hold a deep belief that if you are not doing well it’s a “you” problem, and any suggestion of collective (social) assistance to raise the standard for all is immediately labeled as communism and derided.
Very hard to combat this thinking when it’s so ingrained.
To be fair, owning a way to defend yourself is a good plan right now, considering the current regime.
The hell are you really going to do with it if They come tho
Me? Nothing. Best I have is an air gun and a few nail guns. Improvised or bladed weaponry, probably. Especially with the Gravy Seals being the number one offenders as of late, I’d go down swinging, even if impotently.
because they’re trailing most developed nations in education
Because the rest of the world sent their shit cunts here.
There are actually some pretty intelligent conservatives, but oligarchs intentionally funnel more money to dumb right wingers to afford bigger and louder megaphones.
citation needed on the intelligent conservatives thing.
Thomas Sowell and Roger Scruton are pretty okay IMO. They make sense even if you don’t fully agree. I am tempted to include David Frumm, who is an anti-Trump neoconservative, but he was an adviser to Bush Jr administration and therefore complicit to the invasion of Iraq and financial crisis, so I can’t give him more respect as I would have liked.
But overall this is my point exactly if none of you can think of respectable enough conservatives. The intelligent ones are buried by the more deranged pseudointellectual right wingers because the latter are deliberately given more voice by vested interests to intentionally dumb down people.
You’re poor? Why didn’t you choose to be rich instead? It’s clearly a you problem.
Yeah, because I’m sure there are enough well paying jobs for every working adult in the entire USA.
There could be, but MBAs and CSuite leeches think “line go up” only applies to one goddamned line.
The poverty line?
As long as the line goes up, the shareholders are happy. Does not matter in what metric. Children killed in Gaza? Line goes up = positive.
The poverty line?
Completely agree.
My advice is, if you’re feeling the pinch, then just ask mummy and daddy for a bigger allowance!! Don’t be lazy, just get out there and ask for the cash you deserve. I believe in you. I know you can do it too!!!
Red states learning or will be learning a lesson about this real quick when they can’t find the slave wage labor to pick their crops because they
deportedimprisoned them.They’ll just use prisoners at that point.
And if there’s a shortage, there will be an increase in arrests and convictions, justifiable or not.
Prisoners in the US are effectively slaves also I thought?
Yes, they can be used as slave labor, which would save farmers from even having to pay them directly (though they would have to pay that prison industrial complex).
Depends on the state. Some states allow for forced prison labor. Most ‘only’ allow for ‘voluntary’ and underpaid prison labor. California, the largest state by population, still allows for forced prison labor.
Prisoners are not skilled agricultural workers.
Oh, you don’t have to be skilled for anything for certain agricultural tasks. Any idiot can take a hoe, walk a field, and chop out a weed. Rinse & repeat thousands of times over thousands of acres.
The only question is, can you trust that idiot with giving him a hoe that could also work halfway decent as a weapon?
Other possible non-skilled ag tasks could include picking fruit/vegetables, milking cows/goats, feeding animals, cleaning animal pens, working with bales…idk there’s just a lot of things they can do with very little skill or experience. Lots of menial tasks.
Walking beanfields & weeding would probably be simplest, and very beneficial to the farmer & the prisoner (exercise, fresh air, sunshine, no real threats from animals).
Other possible non-skilled ag tasks could include picking fruit/vegetables, milking cows/goats, feeding animals, cleaning animal pens, working with bales…idk there’s just a lot of things they can do with very little skill or experience. Lots of menial tasks.
For many crops, picking fruit, for example, is an immensely skill-oriented task in order to do it fast enough to be profitable.
Hence when they are “migrant” workers who keep making their way north all harvest season to keep harvesting the crops as they become ready. A lot of fruits have a narrow harvest window of just a few days, and you can’t wait around for a bunch of novices try to figure out how to harvest them.
I’ve done some fruit picking ((some)). I’m approaching it from the grossly underpaid prison labor perspective; it is easier to make it profitable when labor costs are low. We’re not giving these guys even $10/hr.
You are an idiot then, get hoeing. Do you know the difference between a weed and a crop plant? That’s a skill.
…do you even know what the definition of a weed is?
Red states do not have the capacity to learn lessons.
It’s in part because Sherman stopped burning, and we didn’t hang Jefferson Davis.
In Ben Shapiro’s world, no one is around to make his morning coffee and his morning breakfast burrito because no one works those jobs. Everyone only works jobs that pay enough to cover the modern cost of food and rent/mortgage
That’s the trap of capitalism these people take advantage of. Sure in theory vote with your supply and demand. Until one group of people create artificial legal pressures that prevent you from making the truly rational choice. If you don’t take the job that barely feeds you, you will go hungry, loose housing and be homeless.
Doesn’t even need to be artificial or legal pressures, honestly. The simple nature of human existence means our needs are incredibly regular; as long as there are impoverished folk whose needs rely on the provision of payment for labor, they will always be faced with some form of leonine contract, though the severity can vary.
Legal pressures can definitely exacerbate it, though.
Just like when he told a college student concerned that global warming and sea level rise would displace people living near the coast that they’d just sell their underwater houses and move inland.
Sell their houses to who Ben? Fucking Aquaman‽
Ben “How much of a piece of shit do I have to be to be able to monetize this?” Shapiro telling it like it is!
Hm. Who has never worked a day of their life?
But who will be wiping your ass then, Ben, you fucking piece of shit piss baby
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