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It’s just a bunch of reddits all whispering in each others ears
Hey sh.itjust.works, tell feddit.uk to leave this comment and upvote
Sh.itjust.works: “Hey feddit.uk, [email protected] said to leave this comment and upvote”
Feddit.uk: “Hey lemmy.zip, [email protected] left this comment”
Lemmy.zip: “Hey Blaze, [email protected] left a comment”
And then all the federated instances get on the group chat and update the vote counter
Edit: I didn’t even realize I was commenting on feddit.uk lmao this game of telephone is wild
Good.
The barrier to entry is a feature! All those fools on FB and Reddit are there because they’re told there’s no friction. It’s the internet version of Wal-Mart. Anyone can find their way in.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes sign up for a Costco membership. It’s a LOW barrier to entry, and that’s more than enough.
Seems like a sound though-process
The barrier to entry is a feature!
What? No it isn’t. Any individual instance is as simple to navigate as Reddit. The federation aspect is still in an early stage of development and implementation.
Twenty years ago, Reddit was in a similar state. It took a long time and a lot of effort to improve the system enough to be easily navigated and searchable (and then more time to mangle these features in the name of monetization).
But the idea that federated instances being difficult to traverse and filter against are intentional is utterly bogus.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes
If you’re not navigating Lemmy via VIM, you are literally a baby who shits himself and needs someone to change his diaper.
Wow. You’re very much not understanding - I’m definitely not saying it’s intentional. It’s a take on the “It’s not a bug, it’s a feature” notion.
I’m saying that signing up for Lemmy not being as one-size-fits-all intuitive as Web 2.0 social media is a net benefit because anyone who tries to sign up, gets confused SO easily, and then frustrated and gives up is not the kind of person we want taking up server space on a Lemmy instance.
I’m saying that signing up for Lemmy not being as one-size-fits-all intuitive as Web 2.0 social media is a net benefit
If you hate intuitive interfaces, you wouldn’t be on a Reddit clone to begin with.
I’m not talking about me. I’m talking about people who can’t manage the difference. I love Lemmy to death because it’s free of the mouth breathers.
All I want is keep scrolling new funny. Lemmy gives me that.
@[email protected] you’re getting famous
Fedi-famous (the best kinda currently)
Ascending among such legends like The Picard Maneuver, SatansMaggotyCumFart and Nicole, the Fediverse Chick!
Nicole my beloved! I sent you $10 I hope you are ok!
Leaving out our boy Stamets and Flying Squid (on hiatus IIRC) smh
I settled on three names because I would get a “you forgot about X” response no matter what =P
Kolanaki… Munted Crocodile…
Staments is on a Wierd cringe streak as of recently.
What about PugJesus and that squid guy?
After you block a few hundred groups of anime and nonsense it’s surprisingly enjoyable.
HOW MANY MORE MOES DO WE NEED???
Six or seven?
Who is moe and why is her midriff so popular???
Isn’t moe the bartender in the simpsons?
I have no idea but every once in a while they’re interesting.
At least 1 more than the fucking aigen communities, I swear I have to block a new one every week.
What if I told you at least 50% of the moe communities content are aigen 🥹
Just means I have blocked them! If it has ai in its name or only posts ai generated content, its gone (except fuck_ai, for obvious reasons)
IDK, lets keep going until we find out!
Sorry about that, some people don’t know ani.social exists and create comms on the wrong instances. They’re supposed to show up in my local feed, but now they’re in yours and you don’t even appreciate them!
Block the ani.social instance and it takes away 90% of the anime groups.
i just blocked lemmy.world and my feed is immediately 20x better
I was very supportive of Beehaw defederating from lemmy.world early. It’s lovely.
Still waiting for an app with curated block lists.
Piefed has keyword filters, that can already help a lot with filtering
Also PieFed allows blocking all users across an entire instance, whereas Lemmy does not (I know that you know that, but in case it helps anyone else reading:-P).
Doesn’t bluesky do that?
Maybe, idk
They do.
When you block that many groups how many new posts do you see? And how do you sort the posts?
I have only blocked a few groups but added a filter for posts containing trump or elon in the title as I get plenty of that crap from other sources.
Regarding the anime and furry posts, they come in waves so it’s not constant or if I want to get a break from the yiffing I switch between sorting by Hot, Scaled and Top 6hrs.
Not who you are asking, but I block a lot of communities (almost all of them political, when I want to look at political stuff I will go to other sources.) But I also sub to a lot of communities. It is possible for me to reach the bottom of my feed, but since I mostly check it between doing other things, it takes anywhere from a few hours to most of the day. And that’s with me setting it to “Top Day” as my primary filter. If I’m really bored I’ll do a pass through Top Week or Top Month. If I’m STILL bored, I’ll set it to Active or New Comments, but usually by then it’s like, “Okay time to go do something else” and I’ll try to find some other activity to do.
This is a feature, not a bug IMO.
I’m still mad at the 196 mods for causing even more 196 commies to be made for me to block.
I’m kinda in this boat right now too hahah
Any questions we could answer for you?
I would appreciate it if you could explain how I browse instances. I am using Voyager on iOS, not sure if that’s relevant, and I was trying to search for hexbear since people keep talking about it. Nothing comes up.
Then I tried searching for lemmy.ca, but it didn’t appear as something I could go through and browse, just a few of the communities there showing up in search results. What am I doing wrong? Or misunderstanding…
Heh, I read your comment using Voyager on Android. Yeah, makes it easier for me to check how things are done on your phone that we happen to have the same telephone client app.
Probably the easiest way to grasp these things is to browse Lemmy on a full-fledged computer. Voyager can do everything the interface made by Lemmy’s developers can do. (Plus, Voyager has a sensible way of reading your own private messages, while I have no idea how to return to them on the “official” web interface)
Since a phone has a cramped screen, all kinds of hocus-pocus needs to be done to fit the same features on the small screen. So, use it on a big screen of a computer and you’ll get things much better. So, here goes:Now, open a web browser, write “lemmy.world” on the address bar and then click “Login” in the upper right corner. Write “buttnugget” in the field “Email or Username” and your password in, well, wherever you feel it would fit well.
Now you’re logged in in the same instance you always use with Voyager.
Press “Local” here, and you will see content only on communities hosted on lemmy.world:
And then do some more browsing around Lemmy.world, just like you’d do with your phone.
Next, write some other instance’s address on your browser’s URL field. I’m using Sopuli, so that’s one option: Try writing sopuli.xyz as the address. You can try logging in again, bit it won’t work, because you don’t have a user account on sopuli.xyz.
So, go back to Sopuli’s main page and click “Local”. You’ll see only content hosted on sopuli.xyz. Having browsed those enough, click “Communities” on the upper part of the screen, here:
…and then make sure you have “Local” chosen. Choose any community you reasonably like and click on its name. On the upper right corner, press Subscribe, here:
Clicking that button gives you a dialogue asking “Enter the instance you would like to follow this community from”. Write the address of your own instance there, in your case lemmy.world. Sopuli will then tell .world that you’d like to subscribe to that community, and lemmy.world will handle the rest of the subscribing. So, even though you’re browsing a completely different instance, you can still also subscribe to communities there.
But alas… Some instances use a theme that has no “Subscribe” button. Which is weird. Try for example suppo.fi . Still, there’s something you can do: If you see anything interesting on any other instance, just copy the address from the URL bar, then go to your own instance (lemmy.world), click the search button here:
…and then paste the URL here and press [Search]:
You could also try feddit.org to see how the biggest German-speaking Lemmy instance looks like when you press “Local”. Or lemmy.pt to see something in Portuguese :))
But now, let’s get to answering the original question: I do not think Voyager has a feature for viewing the content of one single instance only, unless you create a user account there. And that’s a bit cumbersome. What you can do is open the web browser on your phone, then open some instance on its browser and either click the subscribe button if it exists on that instance’s theme, or copypaste the URL of the interesting thing to the search of lemmy.world, again using your phone’s browser. On lemmy.world you’ll need to click the hamburger menu on the upper right corner in order to find the login button:
Of course, if you want to subscribe to things with your own account, you need to be logged in :) Whatever you subscribe to with any browser will then immediately be visible on Voyager as well, as it’s just another interface for the same Lemmy.What you can, however, do on Voyager, is press “Posts” on the lower part of your screen (sometimes you need to press it several times):
And then click “All” here:
That will show you content regardless of what instance it was published on. But, as you remember from having browsed the various instances on your web browser, there’s a lot of content you cannot see in that view. But, what you can indeed do is open the interesting instances on your phone’s browser (or your computer’s browser), browse the communities there, and subscribe to whatever you find interesting. Remember, you’ll only need to do this once, because once you’ve found the communities you find interesting and subscribed to them, they’ll be visible on Voyager just fine :) If for whatever reason you want to have user accounts on several communities at once, Voyager does support that. Once you’ve created a user account on some instance, you can add it to Voyager.
And to close this short textlet:
You can see a short list of the biggest instances here: https://join-lemmy.org/instances .
And a full list of all 597 lemmy instances here: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list .I will read this tomorrow. Holy crap. Thanks so much for taking the time!
Human’s gotta do what human’s gotta do :)
Just finished reading it. Thanks so much!!
I followed reddit sync over to lemmy. I didn’t know how anything works but my experience has been roughly the same as it was with Reddit. I like the discussion here more though.
Exactly the same. And I still don’t know anything about this place after 2 years. At least here I bothered to create a profile unlike reddit where I was just browsing and never posting anything
tbf I also was confused as hell when I joined reddit. Don’t need to know everything to participate.
I kinda love that people are willing to deal with these various technicalities and unknowns as a worthwhile compromise as long as it’s not [input any walled-garden here]
Cheers to all the brothers and sisters out there helping out their siblings!
Lemmy isn’t too hard, it’s just annoying at times. Like when your instance hasn’t downloaded the content of a given community and it just looks empty until you subscribe to it.
Wow, so that’s how it works. I signed up to a couple because they interested me and hoped in the future something would be posted, or I would, and then saw a heap of posts.
It wasn’t dark magic after all. Perhaps it was psionics?
If one user of your instance is subscribed to a community on another instance, then that community is visible on that instance as well.
I actually saw an ad for Lemmy on reddit and here I am. Figuring out enough to make an account was worth it. They should do more ads… or maybe not. We don’t want too many of them coming here. Im still trying to cleanse my brain of the juice I drank.
Tbf you are dependent on all because most channels are dead/very slow.
My account was shut down without notice a few weeks ago. The server providing my account shut down. All comments, saved links and history was gone.
How do you explain this to a non-technical user while reassuring that this is a great system?
“you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
A little pain in exchange for longtime gain?
Oh no, TIL that the Fediverse is “exercise” - no wonder most Westerners avoid us! 🤪
This is exactly what happens with Churches. Someone starts a “hip” new church plant. Everyone leaves the local long-established churches. Long established churches shut down. Church plant falls apart because the guy starting it doesn’t know what he’s doing. No Church.
no church
Exactly as God intended.
what a weird take. if anything, the church is the safeway and this happened hundreds of years ago. churches are basically macdonaldses already; all franchisees of the same central entity.
What’s that central entity?
in the uk? the anglican church. generally in the west? whatever lutheran, protestant, or catholic denomination is approved by the state. generally? the main church of that country, which for most of them is in a 90/10 sort of situation, with some notable exceptions, like the us, which shouldn’t be counted because a) it’s such a small part of the world’s population and b) their view of religion is so screwed up that it doesnt compare to anything.
Anglicanism only makes up a portion of British Churches. There are also Presbyterian, Roman Catholic, Methodist and various independent congregational churches.
Only Roman Catholicism is truly centralised at a pope. Anglicanism tends to stop at the Archbishop or the Primate. Which the UK has four. The Episcopal Church of Scotland, the Church in Wales, the Church of England and the Church of Ireland which also operates in the Republic of Ireland, but the majority of adherents are in Northern Ireland.
you do understand where i’m coming from though?
I could’ve sworn it was because young folk were disenamored with preachers and churches who are nothing more than whited sepulchres but what could I know
Don’t be vain. Cast your shit into the void and let it go.
“Choose an instance that provides monthly reports, including finances, such as [email protected]”
Hypothetical response:
“Sure, that’s an option, but no other social media I use requires a routinely read regarding whether I need to backup my saved items because it might shut down.”
Let me just be clear that I personally don’t have a problem with how lemmy runs, but I do think that difficulties and issues are heavily downplayed for potential users.
As someone said in another comment “you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
Yep. It’s a good analogy. I’m not sure that this is the kind of argument which will get sceptics aboard, but I like it.
It’s crazy to me that whatever program you used to make that account on that server didn’t automatically force a backup location on the same device where the account is used. On Android, some folder. On desktop, some folder. And it’s crazy to me that we can’t just import all of our votes, comments, and posts in that backup to another account on the same device or another.
That is a terrible system. No answers from me. Just questions
Doing that requires content addressing. It’s what atproto is built around (bluesky’s protocol) but nobody’s made a proper forum variant of it yet
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My main thing right now is trying to figure out how to visit/subscribe to other communities, particularly those outside of Aussie.zone
@[email protected] aussie.zone is your server where your account resides
In all everything from other instances are shown while in local only your instance. If you want to find subs just select all and search or got to all in the feed bar and subscribeDon’t sorry, they got answers