“you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
This is exactly what happens with Churches. Someone starts a “hip” new church plant. Everyone leaves the local long-established churches. Long established churches shut down. Church plant falls apart because the guy starting it doesn’t know what he’s doing. No Church.
what a weird take. if anything, the church is the safeway and this happened hundreds of years ago. churches are basically macdonaldses already; all franchisees of the same central entity.
in the uk? the anglican church. generally in the west? whatever lutheran, protestant, or catholic denomination is approved by the state. generally? the main church of that country, which for most of them is in a 90/10 sort of situation, with some notable exceptions, like the us, which shouldn’t be counted because a) it’s such a small part of the world’s population and b) their view of religion is so screwed up that it doesnt compare to anything.
Anglicanism only makes up a portion of British Churches. There are also Presbyterian, Roman Catholic, Methodist and various independent congregational churches.
Only Roman Catholicism is truly centralised at a pope. Anglicanism tends to stop at the Archbishop or the Primate. Which the UK has four. The Episcopal Church of Scotland, the Church in Wales, the Church of England and the Church of Ireland which also operates in the Republic of Ireland, but the majority of adherents are in Northern Ireland.
I could’ve sworn it was because young folk were disenamored with preachers and churches who are nothing more than whited sepulchres but what could I know
“Sure, that’s an option, but no other social media I use requires a routinely read regarding whether I need to backup my saved items because it might shut down.”
Let me just be clear that I personally don’t have a problem with how lemmy runs, but I do think that difficulties and issues are heavily downplayed for potential users.
As someone said in another comment “you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
It’s crazy to me that whatever program you used to make that account on that server didn’t automatically force a backup location on the same device where the account is used. On Android, some folder. On desktop, some folder. And it’s crazy to me that we can’t just import all of our votes, comments, and posts in that backup to another account on the same device or another.
That is a terrible system. No answers from me. Just questions
My account was shut down without notice a few weeks ago. The server providing my account shut down. All comments, saved links and history was gone.
How do you explain this to a non-technical user while reassuring that this is a great system?
“you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
A little pain in exchange for longtime gain?
Oh no, TIL that the Fediverse is “exercise” - no wonder most Westerners avoid us! 🤪
This is exactly what happens with Churches. Someone starts a “hip” new church plant. Everyone leaves the local long-established churches. Long established churches shut down. Church plant falls apart because the guy starting it doesn’t know what he’s doing. No Church.
Exactly as God intended.
what a weird take. if anything, the church is the safeway and this happened hundreds of years ago. churches are basically macdonaldses already; all franchisees of the same central entity.
What’s that central entity?
in the uk? the anglican church. generally in the west? whatever lutheran, protestant, or catholic denomination is approved by the state. generally? the main church of that country, which for most of them is in a 90/10 sort of situation, with some notable exceptions, like the us, which shouldn’t be counted because a) it’s such a small part of the world’s population and b) their view of religion is so screwed up that it doesnt compare to anything.
Anglicanism only makes up a portion of British Churches. There are also Presbyterian, Roman Catholic, Methodist and various independent congregational churches.
Only Roman Catholicism is truly centralised at a pope. Anglicanism tends to stop at the Archbishop or the Primate. Which the UK has four. The Episcopal Church of Scotland, the Church in Wales, the Church of England and the Church of Ireland which also operates in the Republic of Ireland, but the majority of adherents are in Northern Ireland.
you do understand where i’m coming from though?
There is a misconception that the Church has a central earthly authority surrounding it. It doesn’t. Christ is the head of the Church.
I could’ve sworn it was because young folk were disenamored with preachers and churches who are nothing more than whited sepulchres but what could I know
Don’t be vain. Cast your shit into the void and let it go.
“Choose an instance that provides monthly reports, including finances, such as [email protected]”
Hypothetical response:
“Sure, that’s an option, but no other social media I use requires a routinely read regarding whether I need to backup my saved items because it might shut down.”
Let me just be clear that I personally don’t have a problem with how lemmy runs, but I do think that difficulties and issues are heavily downplayed for potential users.
As someone said in another comment “you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
Yep. It’s a good analogy. I’m not sure that this is the kind of argument which will get sceptics aboard, but I like it.
It’s crazy to me that whatever program you used to make that account on that server didn’t automatically force a backup location on the same device where the account is used. On Android, some folder. On desktop, some folder. And it’s crazy to me that we can’t just import all of our votes, comments, and posts in that backup to another account on the same device or another.
That is a terrible system. No answers from me. Just questions
Doing that requires content addressing. It’s what atproto is built around (bluesky’s protocol) but nobody’s made a proper forum variant of it yet
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