I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

“Nothing new under the sun” I suppose!

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    VERY specific people would have been better off born 20 years ago.

    The vast majority of people would be better off today.

    You can imagine in another 20 years that would be different, but almost everyone is better off today than they were 20 years ago, and they will be even better 20 years from now than today.

    Specific groups may have a harder time in one time period or another, but society at large is getting better at the world scale over the long term. Hope still exists.

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      Maybe when it comes to social issues but when I read OP’s post I think of climate change and how it seems to be worsening at an increasing pace.

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        I’m in my mid thirties and I’ve had a tough time the last few summers. I’m too hot to eat, causing nausea and reducing the amount of water I can drink without vomiting. I’m sure it puts a strain on my vital organs. I wonder how much it’s taking off of my life expectancy already and how much worse it will get over the next decades.

        I don’t even live in a (historically) warm place.

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      I agree with almost all of this, but I think factoring in the imminent catastrophes we know are coming (and actively doing nothing about) will make a sizeable balance of this ‘better off vast majority’ of today.

      The heaps of plastic tell a different story and define ‘getting better’ in a daunting light for those just now being born

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      I was born over 40 years ago. I feel like there was a general consensus in the 80’s that kids being born then absolutely would be “better off” than their parents.

      Reality is sinking in and we’re seeing that wasn’t the case for a lot of people.

      The fact that questionability surrounding “if kids born today will be better off than their parents” even exists today seems to suggest that they will not.

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      VERY specific people would have been better off born 20 years ago.

      The people pining to repeat the mistakes of the past.

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      But the point is it is not about the situation today, it is about the situation in 20 years, heck just 10 years, of which these people will live into and experience very soon.

      but society at large is getting better at the world scale over the long term.

      That used to be true, it is no longer true. And it is not a natural law that this will happen, it is just something a lot of people who have lived in the golden period of the 1950s to early 2000s inferred, without actually considering a larger swath of history than that.