• theherk@lemmy.world
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          8 hours ago

          The words exist across languages because we use them to mean something. If they had neither denotative nor connotative use, your comment itself would not mean anything. That you made the comment seems to me to imply that you know there is a difference.

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      14 hours ago

      Well that’s not true. Hatsune miku is not natural in the slightest.

      • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 hours ago

        Is an anthill not natural despite having been made by natural beings?

        Is Hatsune Miku not natural despite having been made by natural beings?

        Hatsune Miku is the anthill of humanity. The peak of our nature.

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          8 hours ago

          You’d be hard pressed to find a majority of people who agree that things made by humans are natural.

          That’s pretty much the one thing that gets called not natural.

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          10 hours ago

          Hatsune Miku is capable of possessing the Decepticon Soundwave so she is very much not natural.

          Also I would personally consider things created by creatures in the animal kingdom to be unnatural by default. With a further breakdown between naturalistic vs manufactured, with naturalistic being for example an anthill while manufactured would be for example a biface.

          Natural biological processes such as breathing, pissing, and shitting are natural though.

          • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            10 hours ago

            I mean, I’m being facetious, for the record. It is, of course, a deeper and more interesting topic

            Though, what I would end up saying in reality is that the distinction is for the most part meaningless in my opinion. The manufactured does not have to inherently be at odds with the natural.

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              7 hours ago

              Manufactured under such circumstances just means that it’s been altered in such a way that nature is either unlikely to or unable to. It’s not so much as it’s at odds so much as they are two distinct processes one is the simple mechanism of the universe doing its thing while the other is a mind inflicting it’s will, while life may be a consequence of thermodynamics we can still tell a burrow from aeons past from a simple rock which the wind has blasted through.

              Also this is a matter of philosophy which has the potential of causing first fights amongst anthropologists. Which is what makes it fun. Also there is probably no good answer since it is as much derived from an individuals world view than anything else.